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| Posted: 17 Mar 2008 7:51 PM | ||
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Whats is going on now with tha latest battle of the 2nd amendment ?Is something going to be voted on soon?
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| Posted: 17 Mar 2008 7:54 PM | ||
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Not so much voted in the sense of the people voting but, Yes your right in saying that the Supreme Court is going to hear a case, DC v. Heller, where it will interpret the meaning of the 2nd Amendment for the first time since the 1930's. __________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - Benjamin Franklin
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| Posted: 17 Mar 2008 8:00 PM | ||
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| I fear this country is starting to overpower the NRA and others fighting for our rights with rich liberal groups intent on taking guns away from all Americans . | ||
| Posted: 17 Mar 2008 8:03 PM | ||
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This is a good thing. The Miller Case (which was the last decision on the 2nd Amendment) was not really a decision in favor of gun rights. It skirted the issue which led many to believe that it implied that the 2nd Amendment only protected the collective right of the people or state to form a militia.
Hopefully this case will solidify the Individual right to bear arms. Cross your fingers ![]() __________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - Benjamin Franklin
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| Posted: 17 Mar 2008 8:04 PM | ||
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Quote: Over my Dead Body....fear this country is starting to overpower the NRA and others fighting for our rights with rich liberal groups intent on taking guns away from all Americans . __________________ Quote: Hunting is My Heart & Soul, Without it. I'm just a empty shell. |
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| Posted: 17 Mar 2008 8:17 PM | ||
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Over my Dead Body.... I hear ya.
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| Posted: 17 Mar 2008 8:21 PM | ||
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I was looking to see which NJ legislators signed the Amicus Brief for the Heller case, but could not find the info. Does anyone know who from NJ signed the brief?
By the way, I found this website while searching for who signed the Amicus Brief in the Heller case. http://www.2asisters.org/WeHoldTheseTruths.htm It's the Second Amendment Sisters website ![]() __________________ Dog's on point... get ready!!!
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| Posted: 17 Mar 2008 8:54 PM Last Edited By: nj95k | ||
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Over my Dead Body.... And mine. Starting a new thread as not to hijack original post... __________________ Tight Lines, Wet Nets, Filled Tags and Full Bags
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| Posted: 17 Mar 2008 9:03 PM | ||
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Over my Dead Body.... DITTO !!! __________________ NRA LIFE MEMBER
UBNJ MEMBER MEMBER-VCDL Multiple concealed carry permit holder. In times of severe crisis and distress the armed citizen will always prevail !!! |
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| Posted: 18 Mar 2008 9:09 AM | ||
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Oral Arguments Being Heard Right NOW!!!!!
Tuesday, March 18, 2008 No. 07–290. District of Columbia, et al. v. Dick Anthony Heller. Certiorari to the C. A. District of Columbia Circuit. For petitioners: Walter Dellinger, Washington, D. C. For United States as amicus curiae: Paul D. Clement, Solicitor General, Department of Justice, Washington, D. C. For respondent: Alan Gura, Alexandria, Va. (75 minutes for argument.) __________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - Benjamin Franklin
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| Posted: 18 Mar 2008 9:38 AM Last Edited By: ChrisM | ||
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Quote: U.S. SUPREME COURT AGREES TO C-SPAN’S REQUEST FOR SAME-DAY RELEASE OF ORAL ARGUMENT IN UPCOMING FIREARMS CASE Chief Justice Roberts Approves Immediate Release of Oral Argument For District of Columbia v. Heller WASHINGTON, D.C. -- On Tuesday, March 18, 2008, C-SPAN will air the Supreme Court oral argument of District of Columbia v. Heller which the Court is scheduled to hear that day. The immediate release of the audio recording of the Court's argument was in response to a request by C-SPAN (Release time is approximately 11:15 A.M.). The Court will make the recording available to the media soon after the conclusion of the oral argument. The oral argument will air on C-SPAN, and C-SPAN Radio as soon as it is released. The audio recording will also be archived online at http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS __________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - Benjamin Franklin
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| Posted: 18 Mar 2008 9:53 AM | ||
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Over my Dead Body.... I hear ya... but who's going to do the gun grabbing if it comes down to that? Any police officers on here willing to do it? __________________ Life Member NRA, NAHC, NAFC
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| Posted: 18 Mar 2008 9:59 AM Last Edited By: BestNJBirdDogs | ||
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Drumroll please And the only NJ representative to sign the Amicus Brief in support of an individual's right to bear arms was Representative E. Scott Garrett (NJ-5, R). Unless you live in D-5, I suggest you contact your local legislators and ask them why they didn't sign it.
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/07-290_am ... __________________ Dog's on point... get ready!!!
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| Posted: 18 Mar 2008 10:01 AM | ||
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I suggest anyone that has the time, click the link in my above post and listen to the commentary about the case which is on right now. The oral arguments will air in about 30mins!
The commentary is very informative.... __________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - Benjamin Franklin
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| Posted: 18 Mar 2008 10:22 AM | ||
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This is the US Supreme Court web site of this case,
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/07-290.htm The list of supporters and opposed is interesting ~~Name~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~Phone~~~ Attorneys for Petitioners: Todd S. Kim Solicitor General (202) 724-6609 Counsel of Record Office of the Attorney General for D.C. 441 Fourth Street, N.W. Washington, DC 20001 todd.kim@dc.gov Party name: District of Columbia, et al. Walter Dellinger O'Melveny & Myers LLP (202) 383-5300 1625 Eye Street, N.W. Washington, DC 20006 wdellinger@omm.com Party name: District of Columbia, et al. Attorneys for Respondent: Alan Gura Gura & Possessky, PLLC (703) 835-9085 Counsel of Record 101 N. Columbus Street, Suite 405 Alexandria, VA 22314 alan@gurapossessky.com Party name: Dick Anthony Heller Other: Marc James Ayers Bradley Arant Rose & White LLP (205) 521-8598 One Federal Place 1819 Fifth Avenue North Birmingham, AL 35203 Party name: Criminologists, Social Scientists, Other Distinguished Scholars, et al. M. Carol Bambery 1330 New Hampshire Ave., N.W. (240) 515-6034 Unit 321 Washington, DC 20036 Party name: 126 Women State Legislators and Academics Robert Jeffords Barham 1613 Main Street (29201) (803) 799-1111 P.O. Box 8448 Columbia, SC 29202 Party name: Grass Roots of South Carolina, Inc. Robert L. Barr Jr. 44 N. Main Street (770) 836-1776 Atlanta, GA 30143 Party name: Libertarian National Committee, Inc. Bradford A. Berenson Sidley Austin LLP (202) 736-8000 1501 K Street, NW Washington, DC 20005 Party name: Goldwater Institute Jeffrey L. Bleich Munger, Tolles & Olson LLP (415) 512-4000 560 Mission Street San Francisco, CA 94105 Party name: Major American Cities, et al. Carl T. Bogus Roger Williams University School of Law (401) 254-4617 Ten Metacom Avenue Bristol, RI 02809 Party name: Jack N. Rakove, et al. Victor A. Bolden NAACP (212) 965-2200 99 Hudson Street Suite 1600 New York, NY 10013 Party name: NAACP Legal Defense & Educational Fund, Inc. Jonathan G. Cedarbaum WilmerHale (202) 663-6000 1875 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20006 Party name: Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, et al. Robert Phillip Charrow 2101 L Street, N.W., Suite 1000 (202) 533-2396 Washington, DC 20037 Party name: Major General John D. Altenburg, Jr., et al. Erwin Chemerinsky Duke University School of Law (919) 613-7173 Science Drive & Towerview Rd. Durham, NC 27708 Party name: Law Professors Erwin Chemerinsky and Adam Winkler Paul D. Clement Solicitor General (202) 514-2217 United States Department of Justice 950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC 20530-0001 SupremeCtBriefs@USDOJ.gov Party name: United States Alexis S. Coll - Very Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP (650) 251-5000 2550 Hanover Street Palo Alto, CA 94304 Party name: District Attorneys Charles J. Cooper Cooper & Kirk, PLLC (202) 220-9600 555 Eleventh Street, N.W., Suite 750 Washington, DC 20005 ccooper@cooperkirk.com Party name: Former Senior Officials of Department of Justice R. Ted Cruz Solicitor General (512) 936-1700 Office of the Attorney General P.O. Box 12548, MC-059 Austin, TX 78711-2548 Ted.Cruz@aog.state.tx.us Party name: Texas, et al. Bert H. Deixler Proskauer, Rose, LLP (310) 557-2900 2049 Century Park East Suite 3200 Los Angeles, CA 90067 Party name: American Acdemy of Pediatrics, et al. Deborah Dewart 620 E. Sabiston Drive (910)-326-4554 Swansboro, NC 28584-9674 Party name: Foundation for Free Expression Robert Dowlut P.O. Box 341101 (703) 267-1254 Bethesda, MD 20827-1101 Party name: American Legislative Exchange Council Charles M. Dyke Thelen Reid Brown Raysman & Steiner (415) 371-1200 101 Second Street, Suite 1800 San Francisco, CA 94105 Party name: Professors of Linguistics and English Dennis E. Baron, Richard W. Bailey, and Jeffrey P. Kaplan Peter J. Ferrara American Civil Rights Union (703) 582-8466 10621 Summer Oak Court Burke, VA 22015 Party name: American Civil Rights Union Jonathan S. Franklin Fulbright & Jaworski LLP (202) 662-0466 801 Pennsylvania Ave., NW Washington, DC 20004 Party name: DC Appleseed Center for Law and Justice, et al. Andrew L. Frey Mayer Brown LLP (202) 263-3000 1909 K Street, N.W. Washington, DC 20006 Party name: City of Chicago, et al. Scott E. Gant Boies Schiller 7 Flexner LLP (202) 237-2727 5301 Wisconsin Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20015 Party name: Members of Congress Richard E. Gardiner 10560 Main Street (703) 352-7276 Suite 404 Fairfax, VA 22030 Party name: Bruce L. Benson, et al. Renee L. Giachino Center for Individual Freedom (703) 535-5836 113 South Columbus Street Suite 310 Suite 402 Alexandria, VA 22314 Party name: Center for Individual Freedom Shannon Lee Goessling Southeastern Legal Foundation, Inc. (404)-257-9667 6100 Lake Forrest Drive, N. W. Suite 520 Atlanta, GA 30328 Party name: Southeastern Legal Foundation, et al. Stephen P. Halbrook 10560 Main Street, Suite 404 (703) 352-7276 Fairfax, VA 22030 Party name: 55 Members of United States Senate, et al. L. Kenneth Hanson 15 West Winter Street (740)-363-1213 Delaware, OH 43015 Party name: Buckeye Firearms Foundation LLC, et al. David T. Hardy 8951 East Driftwood Trail 520749024 Tucson, AZ 85749 Party name: Academics for the Second Amendent Richard E. Hill Jr. The Law Office of Richard E. Hill, Jr. (757) 259-0017 1321 Jamestown Road, Suite 102 Williamsburg, VA 23185 Party name: Virginia1774.org Erik S. Jaffe Erik S. Jaffe PC (202) 237-8165 5101 34th Street, NW Washington, DC 20008 Party name: Institute for Justice Daniel G. Jarcho McKenna Long & Aldridge LLP (202) 496-7500 1900 K Street, N.W. Washington, DC 20006 Party name: Violence Policy Center, et al. Gregory M. Jones Foundation for Moral Law, Inc. (334) 262-1245 One Dexter Avenue Montgomery, AL 36164 Party name: Foundation for Moral Law Lawrence G. Keane National Shooting Sports Foundation, Inc. (203) 426-1320 Flintlock Ridge Office Center 11 Mile Road Newtown, CT 06470-2359 Party name: National Shooting Sports Foundation, Inc. Paul M. Kienzle Scott & Kienzle PA (505) 246-8600 P.O. Box 587 Albuquerque, NM 87103-0587 Party name: Paragon Foundation, Inc. David B. Kopel Independence Institute (303) 279-6536 13952 Denver West Parkway Suite 400 Golden, CO 80401 Party name: International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Association, et al. John P. Krill Jr. Kirkpatrick & Lockhart Preston Gates Ellis LLP (717) 231-4505 17 North Second Street Harrisburg, PA 17101 Party name: President Pro Tempore of the Senate of Pennsylvania, Joseph B. Scarnati, III Jeffrey A. Lamken Baker Botts L.L.P. (202) 639-7700 1299 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC 20004-2400 Party name: American Jewish Committee, et al. Robert A. Long Jr. Covington & Burling (202) 662-6000 1201 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20004 Party name: Former Department of Justice Officials Nelson Lund George Mason University (703)-993-8045 School of Law, 3301 Fairfax Drive Arlington, VA 22201 Party name: Second Amendment Foundation Daryl Manhart Burch & Cracchiolo, PA (602) 274-7611 702 E. Osborn Road, Suite 200 Phoenix, AZ 85014 Party name: Maricopa County Attorney's Office, et al. Charles Kevin Marshall Jones Day (202) 879-3939 51 Louisiana Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC 20001-2113 Party name: Cato Institute, et al. Andrew G. McBride Wiley, Rein LLP (202) 719-7000 1776 K Street, NW Washington, DC 20006 Party name: Retired Military Officers Jack Brian McGee 445 Nelson Street (907) 586-2548 Juneau, AK 99801 Party name: Alaska Outdoor Council, et al. Michael B. Minton One U.S. Bank Plaza (314) 552-6000 St. Louis, MO 63101 Party name: Pink Pistols and Gays and Lesbians for Individual Liberty Jeanette M. 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| Posted: 18 Mar 2008 11:06 AM | ||
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Oral Argument being aired shortly
http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS __________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - Benjamin Franklin
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| Posted: 21 Mar 2008 6:02 PM | ||
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SCOTUS hears D.C. gun case
America's third largest political party releases statement on today's hearing of District of Columbia v. Heller Washington, D.C. - Marking today's hearing of District of Columbia v. Heller, Libertarian Party Executive Director Shane Cory issued the following statement: Today, the Supreme Court heard the case that will determine the future of gun rights in America for decades to come. We hope that the justices will remember that the individual right to keep and bear arms is essential for the protection of life, liberty and property. Without the ability for an individual to keep and bear arms, free from undue government regulation such as the District of Columbia's outright ban on handguns, citizens are left vulnerable to the violence of criminals. Constraints on the right to free speech are immediately rejected as an endangerment to liberty in the United States. We feel that those on the Second Amendment should also be rejected in that same spirit, as we point out in our amicus curiae brief filed in support of Heller. The only acceptable outcome to this case is to uphold the ruling that the District of Columbia has no Constitutional right to deny law-abiding individuals the right to keep and bear firearms. The Libertarian Party is dedicated to a strict adherence to the Constitution and the protection of rights both natural and enumerated, including the right of an individual to keep and bear arms in the defense of life, liberty and property. The Libertarian Party filed an amicus curiae brief in support of Heller in the D.C. gun case, which can be found at http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/07-290_am ... The Libertarian Party is America's third largest political party, founded in 1971 as an alternative to the two main political parties. The Libertarian Party proudly stands for smaller government, lower taxes and more freedom. __________________ "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." - John Quincy Adams
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