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Posted:  17 Mar 2008 7:51 PM
Whats is going on now with tha latest battle of the 2nd amendment ?Is something going to be voted on soon? 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/17/opinion/courtwatch/main ...
Posted:  17 Mar 2008 7:54 PM
Not so much voted in the sense of the people voting but, Yes your right in saying that the Supreme Court is going to hear a case, DC v. Heller, where it will interpret the meaning of the 2nd Amendment for the first time since the 1930's.
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Posted:  17 Mar 2008 8:00 PM
I fear this country is starting to overpower the  NRA and others fighting for our rights with rich liberal groups intent on taking guns away from all Americans .
Posted:  17 Mar 2008 8:03 PM
This is a good thing. The Miller Case (which was the last decision on the 2nd Amendment) was not really a decision in favor of gun rights.  It skirted the issue which led many to believe that it implied that the 2nd Amendment only protected the collective right of the people or state to form a militia.

Hopefully this case will solidify the Individual right to bear arms. 

Cross your fingers
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Posted:  17 Mar 2008 8:04 PM
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fear this country is starting to overpower the  NRA and others fighting for our rights with rich liberal groups intent on taking guns away from all Americans .
Over my Dead Body....
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Posted:  17 Mar 2008 8:17 PM
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Over my Dead Body....


I  hear ya.
Posted:  17 Mar 2008 8:21 PM
I was looking to see which NJ legislators signed the Amicus Brief for the Heller case, but could not find the info. Does anyone know who from NJ signed the brief?

By the way, I found this website while searching for who signed the Amicus Brief in the Heller case. http://www.2asisters.org/WeHoldTheseTruths.htm It's the Second Amendment Sisters website
Posted:  17 Mar 2008 8:54 PM   Last Edited By: nj95k
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Over my Dead Body....

And mine.

Starting a new thread as not to hijack original post...
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Posted:  17 Mar 2008 9:03 PM
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Over my Dead Body....

            DITTO !!!
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Posted:  18 Mar 2008 9:09 AM
Oral Arguments Being Heard Right NOW!!!!!

Tuesday, March 18, 2008 No. 07–290. District of Columbia, et al. v. Dick Anthony Heller. Certiorari to the C. A. District of Columbia Circuit.

For petitioners: Walter Dellinger, Washington, D. C.

For United States as amicus curiae: Paul D. Clement, Solicitor
General, Department of Justice, Washington, D. C.

For respondent: Alan Gura, Alexandria, Va. (75 minutes for argument.)
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Posted:  18 Mar 2008 9:38 AM   Last Edited By: ChrisM
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U.S. SUPREME COURT AGREES TO C-SPAN’S REQUEST FOR SAME-DAY
RELEASE OF ORAL ARGUMENT IN UPCOMING FIREARMS CASE


Chief Justice Roberts Approves Immediate Release of Oral
Argument For District of Columbia v. Heller
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- On Tuesday, March 18, 2008, C-SPAN will
air the Supreme Court oral argument of District of Columbia v.
Heller which the Court is scheduled to hear that day. The
immediate release of the audio recording of the Court's
argument was in response to a request by C-SPAN (Release time
is approximately 11:15 A.M.).


The Court will make the recording available to the media soon
after the conclusion of the oral argument. The oral argument
will air on C-SPAN, and C-SPAN Radio as soon as it is
released. The audio recording will also be archived online at
http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

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Posted:  18 Mar 2008 9:53 AM
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Over my Dead Body....

I hear ya... but who's going to do the gun grabbing if it comes down to that?  Any police officers on here willing to do it?
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Posted:  18 Mar 2008 9:59 AM   Last Edited By: BestNJBirdDogs
Drumroll please And the only NJ representative to sign the Amicus Brief in support of an individual's right to bear arms was Representative E. Scott Garrett (NJ-5, R). Unless you live in D-5, I suggest you contact your local legislators and ask them why they didn't sign it.

http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/07-290_am ...
Posted:  18 Mar 2008 10:01 AM
I suggest anyone that has the time, click the link in my above post and listen to the commentary about the case which is on right now.  The oral arguments will air in about 30mins! 

The commentary is very informative....
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Posted:  18 Mar 2008 10:22 AM
This is the US Supreme Court web site of this case,
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/07-290.htm

The list of supporters and opposed is interesting


~~Name~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~    ~~~~~~~Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   ~~Phone~~~
Attorneys for Petitioners:   
Todd S. Kim Solicitor General (202) 724-6609
    Counsel of Record Office of the Attorney General for D.C. 
441 Fourth Street, N.W. 
Washington, DC  20001 
todd.kim@dc.gov
Party name: District of Columbia, et al.
   
Walter Dellinger O'Melveny & Myers LLP (202) 383-5300
1625 Eye Street, N.W. 
Washington, DC  20006 
wdellinger@omm.com
Party name: District of Columbia, et al.
Attorneys for Respondent:   
Alan Gura Gura & Possessky, PLLC (703) 835-9085
    Counsel of Record 101 N. Columbus Street, Suite 405   
Alexandria, VA  22314 
alan@gurapossessky.com
Party name: Dick Anthony Heller
Other:   
Marc James Ayers Bradley Arant Rose & White LLP (205) 521-8598
One Federal Place 
1819 Fifth Avenue North 
Birmingham, AL  35203 
Party name: Criminologists, Social Scientists, Other Distinguished Scholars, et al.
   
M. Carol Bambery 1330 New Hampshire Ave., N.W. (240) 515-6034
Unit 321 
Washington, DC  20036 
Party name: 126 Women State Legislators and Academics
   
Robert Jeffords Barham 1613 Main Street (29201) (803) 799-1111
P.O. Box 8448 
Columbia, SC  29202 
Party name: Grass Roots of South Carolina, Inc.
   
Robert L. Barr Jr. 44 N. Main Street (770) 836-1776
Atlanta, GA  30143 
Party name: Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
   
Bradford A. Berenson Sidley Austin LLP (202) 736-8000
1501 K Street, NW 
Washington, DC  20005 
Party name: Goldwater Institute
   
Jeffrey L. Bleich Munger, Tolles & Olson LLP (415) 512-4000
560 Mission Street 
San Francisco, CA  94105 
Party name: Major American Cities, et al.
   
Carl T. Bogus Roger Williams University School of Law (401) 254-4617
Ten Metacom Avenue 
Bristol, RI  02809 
Party name: Jack N. Rakove, et al.
   
Victor A. Bolden NAACP (212) 965-2200
99 Hudson Street Suite 1600 
New York, NY  10013 
Party name: NAACP Legal Defense & Educational Fund, Inc.
   
Jonathan G. Cedarbaum WilmerHale (202) 663-6000
1875 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW 
Washington, DC  20006 
Party name: Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, et al.
   
Robert Phillip Charrow 2101 L Street, N.W., Suite 1000 (202) 533-2396
Washington, DC  20037 
Party name: Major General John D. Altenburg, Jr., et al.
   
Erwin Chemerinsky Duke University School of Law (919) 613-7173
Science Drive & Towerview Rd. 
Durham, NC  27708 
Party name: Law Professors Erwin Chemerinsky and Adam Winkler
   
Paul D. Clement Solicitor General (202) 514-2217
United States Department of Justice 
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. 
Washington, DC  20530-0001 
SupremeCtBriefs@USDOJ.gov
Party name: United States
   
Alexis S. Coll - Very Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP (650) 251-5000
2550 Hanover Street 
Palo Alto, CA  94304 
Party name: District Attorneys
   
Charles J. Cooper Cooper & Kirk, PLLC (202) 220-9600
555 Eleventh Street, N.W., Suite 750 
Washington, DC  20005 
ccooper@cooperkirk.com
Party name: Former Senior Officials of Department of Justice
   
R. Ted Cruz Solicitor General (512) 936-1700
Office of the Attorney General 
P.O. Box 12548, MC-059 
Austin, TX  78711-2548 
Ted.Cruz@aog.state.tx.us
Party name: Texas, et al.
   
Bert H. Deixler Proskauer, Rose, LLP (310) 557-2900
2049 Century Park East 
Suite 3200 
Los Angeles, CA  90067 
Party name: American Acdemy of Pediatrics, et al.
   
Deborah Dewart 620 E. Sabiston Drive  (910)-326-4554
Swansboro, NC  28584-9674 
Party name: Foundation for Free Expression
   
Robert Dowlut P.O. Box 341101  (703) 267-1254
Bethesda, MD  20827-1101 
Party name: American Legislative Exchange Council
   
Charles M. Dyke Thelen Reid Brown Raysman & Steiner (415) 371-1200
101 Second Street, Suite 1800 
San Francisco, CA  94105 
Party name: Professors of Linguistics and English Dennis E. Baron, Richard W. Bailey, and Jeffrey P. Kaplan
   
Peter J. Ferrara American Civil Rights Union (703) 582-8466
10621 Summer Oak Court 
Burke, VA  22015 
Party name: American Civil Rights Union
   
Jonathan S. Franklin Fulbright & Jaworski LLP (202) 662-0466
801 Pennsylvania Ave., NW 
Washington, DC  20004 
Party name: DC Appleseed Center for Law and Justice, et al. 
   
Andrew L. Frey Mayer Brown LLP (202) 263-3000
1909 K Street, N.W. 
Washington, DC  20006 
Party name: City of Chicago, et al.
   
Scott E. Gant Boies Schiller 7 Flexner LLP (202) 237-2727
5301 Wisconsin Avenue, NW 
Washington, DC  20015 
Party name: Members of Congress
   
Richard E. Gardiner 10560 Main Street (703) 352-7276
Suite 404 
Fairfax, VA  22030 
Party name: Bruce L. Benson, et al.
   
Renee L. Giachino Center for Individual Freedom (703) 535-5836
113 South Columbus Street 
Suite 310 
Suite 402 
Alexandria, VA  22314 
Party name: Center for Individual Freedom
   
Shannon Lee Goessling Southeastern Legal Foundation, Inc. (404)-257-9667
6100 Lake Forrest Drive, N. W. 
Suite 520 
Atlanta, GA  30328 
Party name: Southeastern Legal Foundation, et al.
   
Stephen P. Halbrook 10560 Main Street, Suite 404 (703) 352-7276
Fairfax, VA  22030 
Party name: 55 Members of United States Senate, et al.
   
L. Kenneth Hanson 15 West Winter Street  (740)-363-1213
Delaware, OH  43015 
Party name: Buckeye Firearms Foundation LLC, et al.
   
David T. Hardy 8951 East Driftwood Trail 520749024
Tucson, AZ  85749 
Party name: Academics for the Second Amendent
   
Richard E. Hill Jr. The Law Office of Richard E. Hill, Jr. (757) 259-0017
1321 Jamestown Road, Suite 102 
Williamsburg, VA  23185 
Party name: Virginia1774.org
   
Erik S. Jaffe Erik S. Jaffe PC (202) 237-8165
5101 34th Street, NW 
Washington, DC  20008 
Party name: Institute for Justice
   
Daniel G. Jarcho McKenna Long & Aldridge LLP (202) 496-7500
1900 K Street, N.W. 
Washington, DC  20006 
Party name: Violence Policy Center, et al.
   
Gregory M. Jones Foundation for Moral Law, Inc. (334) 262-1245
One Dexter Avenue 
Montgomery, AL  36164 
Party name: Foundation for Moral Law
   
Lawrence G. Keane National Shooting Sports Foundation, Inc. (203) 426-1320
Flintlock Ridge Office Center 
11 Mile Road 
Newtown, CT  06470-2359 
Party name: National Shooting Sports Foundation, Inc.
   
Paul M. Kienzle Scott & Kienzle PA (505) 246-8600
P.O. Box 587   
Albuquerque, NM  87103-0587 
Party name: Paragon Foundation, Inc.
   
David B. Kopel Independence Institute (303) 279-6536
13952 Denver West Parkway 
Suite 400 
Golden, CO  80401 
Party name: International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Association, et al.
   
John P. Krill Jr. Kirkpatrick & Lockhart Preston Gates Ellis LLP (717) 231-4505
17 North Second Street 
Harrisburg, PA  17101 
Party name: President Pro Tempore of the Senate of Pennsylvania, Joseph B. Scarnati, III
   
Jeffrey A. Lamken Baker Botts L.L.P. (202) 639-7700
1299 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. 
Washington, DC  20004-2400 
Party name: American Jewish Committee, et al.
   
Robert A. Long Jr. Covington & Burling (202) 662-6000
1201 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW 
Washington, DC  20004 
Party name: Former Department of Justice Officials
   
Nelson Lund George Mason University  (703)-993-8045
School of Law, 3301 Fairfax Drive   
Arlington, VA  22201 
Party name: Second Amendment Foundation
   
Daryl Manhart Burch & Cracchiolo, PA (602) 274-7611
702 E. Osborn Road, Suite 200 
Phoenix, AZ  85014 
Party name: Maricopa County Attorney's Office, et al.
   
Charles Kevin Marshall Jones Day (202) 879-3939
51 Louisiana Avenue, N.W. 
Washington, DC  20001-2113 
Party name: Cato Institute, et al.
   
Andrew G. McBride Wiley, Rein LLP (202) 719-7000
1776 K Street, NW 
Washington, DC  20006 
Party name: Retired Military Officers
   
Jack Brian McGee 445 Nelson Street  (907) 586-2548
Juneau, AK  99801 
Party name: Alaska Outdoor Council, et al.
   
Michael B. Minton One U.S. Bank Plaza  (314) 552-6000
St. Louis, MO  63101 
Party name: Pink Pistols and Gays and Lesbians for Individual Liberty
   
Jeanette M. Moll 803 B Market Street  (740)-408-0431
Zanesville, OH  43701 
Party name: Jeanette M. Moll, Ohio Concealed Carry Permitholders, et al.
   
John R. Monroe 9640 Coleman Road  (678)-362-7650
Roswell, GA  30075 
Party name: GeorgiaCarry.Org, Inc.
   
William H Neukom American Bar Association (312) 988-5000
321 North Clark Street   
Chicago, IL  60610 
Party name: American Bar Association
   
   
William Perry Pendley Mountain States Legal Foundation (303) 292-2021
2596 South Lewis Way 
Lakewood, CO  80227 
Party name: Mountain States Legal Foundation
   
Stephen D. Poss Goodwin Procter LLP (617) 570-1000
Exchange Place 
Boston, MA  02109 
Party name: National Rifle Association , et al.
   
James R. Schaller 311 B Avenue Suite D (503)-635-1505
Lake Oswego, OR  97034 
Party name: International Scholars
   
David J. Schenck Jones Day (214) 220-3939
2727 N. Harwood Street 
Dallas, TX  75201-1515 
Party name: State Firearm Associations
   
Andrew L. Schlafly 939 Old Chester Road (908) 719-8608
Far Hills, NJ  07931 
Party name: Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, Inc.
   
Daniel L. Schmutter 36 Fowler Drive  (973) 214-6298
West Orange, NJ  07052 
Party name: Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership 
   
Jay Alan Sekulow American Center for Law & Justice (202) 546-8890
201 Maryland Ave., N.E. 
Washington, DC  20002-5703 
Party name: American Center for Law and Justice
   
Kelly J. Shackelford Liberty Legal Institute (972) 423-3131
903 East 18th Street 
Suite 230 
Plano, TX  75074 
Party name: Dr. Surzanna Gratia Hupp, et al.
   
Douglas G. Smith 200 East RandolphDrive  (312)-861-2000
Chicago, IL  60601 
Party name: Eagle Forum Education & Legal Defense Fund
   
Bruce D. Sokler Mintz, Levin, Cohn, Ferris, Glovsky and Popeo, P.C. (202) 434-7300
701 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW 
Washington, DC  20004 
Party name: National Network to End Domestic Violence, et al.
   
Stefan Bijan Tahmassebi 3117 Woodland Lane (703) 267-1259
Alexandria, VA  22309 
Party name: Congress of Racial Equality
   
Jeffrey B. Teichert Teichert Law Office, PC (360) 594-4321
44164 Meridian Street 
Suite 405 
Bellingham, WA  98226 
Party name: Organizations and Scholars Correcting Myths and Misrepresentations etc.
   
Herbert W. Titus William J. Olson, PC (703) 356-5070
8180 Greensboro Drive 
Suite 1070 
McLean, VA  22102 
Party name: Gun Owners of America, Inc.
   
Alison M. Tucher Morrison & Foerster LLP (415) 268-7000
425 Market Street   
San Francisco, CA  94105 
Party name: American Public Health Association, et al.
   
Barbara D. Underwood Solicitor General (212) 416-8016
Office of the NY State Solicitor General 
120 Broadway, 25th Floor   
New York, NY  10271 
barbara.underwood@oag.state.ny.us
Party name: New York, Hawaii, Illinois, and Maryland
   
Albert William Wallis Brown Rudnick Berlack Israels LLP (617) 856-8200
One Financial Center 
Boston, MA  02111 
Party name: Professors of Criminal Justice
   
James H. Warner P.O. Box 409  (301)-432-4935
Burkittsville, MD  21718 
Party name: Disabled Veterans for Self-Defense and Kestra Childers
   
John W. Whitehead Rutherford Institute (434) 978-3888
1440 Sachem Place 
Charlottesville, VA  22901 
Party name: Rutherford Institute
   
Richard K. Willard Steptoe & Johnson LLP (202) 429-3000
1330 Connecticut Avenue 
Washington, DC  20036 
Party name: Heartland Institute
   
Christopher G. Wren Assistant Attorney General (608) 266-7081
17 W. Main Street 
P.O. Box 7857 
Madison, WI  53707-7857 
Party name: Wisconsin
Posted:  18 Mar 2008 11:06 AM
Oral Argument being aired shortly

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS
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Posted:  21 Mar 2008 6:02 PM
SCOTUS hears D.C. gun case

America's third largest political party releases statement on today's hearing of District of Columbia v. Heller

Washington, D.C. - Marking today's hearing of District of Columbia v. Heller, Libertarian Party Executive Director Shane Cory issued the following statement:


Today, the Supreme Court heard the case that will determine the future of gun rights in America for decades to come. We hope that the justices will remember that the individual right to keep and bear arms is essential for the protection of life, liberty and property. Without the ability for an individual to keep and bear arms, free from undue government regulation such as the District of Columbia's outright ban on handguns, citizens are left vulnerable to the violence of criminals. Constraints on the right to free speech are immediately rejected as an endangerment to liberty in the United States.  We feel that those on the Second Amendment should also be rejected in that same spirit, as we point out in our amicus curiae brief filed in support of Heller.  The only acceptable outcome to this case is to uphold the ruling that the District of Columbia has no Constitutional right to deny law-abiding individuals the right to keep and bear firearms.


The Libertarian Party is dedicated to a strict adherence to the Constitution and the protection of rights both natural and enumerated, including the right of an individual to keep and bear arms in the defense of life, liberty and property.  The Libertarian Party filed an amicus curiae brief in support of Heller in the D.C. gun case, which can be found at http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/07-290_am ...

The Libertarian Party is America's third largest political party, founded in 1971 as an alternative to the two main political parties.  The Libertarian Party proudly stands for smaller government, lower taxes and more freedom.
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