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| Posted: 03 Dec 2007 8:09 PM | ||
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i am so tired of the same group trespassing. it took me 5 years to get the local cops out of my private piece. the next block over has changed hands, the land owner lawers asked my property lawers to post the property for them. which i did in september. i don't have hunting rights but it makes a good sancuary next to my lease. well today the same group led by the same cop shows up to drive it. the land owners that allow me to hunt called me and told me a drive was setting up. i call the co, busy, he's got a guy that killed a buck in the middle of the road 10 miles away. co said call the local police dept, which this leader of the drive works for. so i called and explained the situation. i live in the next town over and have to tread lightly, i like to drive without getting pulled over. hopefully this will get straightened out. i know the guy has been hunting the property for 20 years, but owners have changed and don't want anyone in there, doesn't matter what you do for a living. if it doesn't stop i guess a letter to the paper might slow it down. i've been carrying a video camera for years now. they know this and have stopped driving on my lease. but they need to stop driving the next block. what you do for a living should give you the right to hunt every property in the town you work in. this cop has been warned by f+g before to clean up his act, and he still clings to "this is my town" small town BS __________________ united bowhunters of nj
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| Posted: 03 Dec 2007 8:15 PM | ||
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| Posted: 03 Dec 2007 8:16 PM | ||
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My inlaws had a Hackettstown cop actually drive down their 1250 ft lane and TELL, not ask them that he was going to hunt on their farm and that he was a Hackettstown cop so their was nothing they could do about it. My mother in law told him that our town is covered by State police and the state trooper that she was about to call will not care that he is a Hackettstown cop and to get the hell off her property ASAP. He actually had the balls to call her a few choice words on his way off the property.
Cops like that one should think about why they actually wanted to be a cop in the first place... __________________ "from my cold dead hands"
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| Posted: 03 Dec 2007 8:16 PM | ||
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| Would this be one of uncle Miltys recruits. | ||
| Posted: 03 Dec 2007 8:18 PM | ||
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Quote: NO ONE is above the law. How would he like it if you set up in his backyard ?this cop has been warned by f+g before to clean up his act, and he still clings to "this is my town" small town BS __________________ NRA LIFE MEMBER
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| Posted: 03 Dec 2007 8:37 PM | ||
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Would this be one of uncle Miltys recruits thats the trespass gang. every year. i here it from people all over. some people think they are obligated to allow them to hunt. the outlaw gang. 
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NO ONE is above the law. How would he like it if you set up in his backyard ? his yard has no boundries, it's ALL his. __________________ united bowhunters of nj
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| Posted: 03 Dec 2007 8:43 PM | ||
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I know a group of cops that got in trouble for tresspassing. They had to go to court and pay a fine. One is a friend of mine that takes all his buddies from different agencies on the quads. They pissed off a neighbor by constantly crossing his property to the point there was a dirt road made from his back yard through this guys property. After several warnings the guy pressed charges. I can imagine it was a bad seen being in law enforcement standing in front of a judge for a think like tresspassing. __________________ "from my cold dead hands"
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| Posted: 03 Dec 2007 9:02 PM | ||
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Good luck. There are A-holes every where, sometimes they happen to be cops.
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How would he like it if you set up in his backyard ? Are you kidding!?!?! The A-hole cop would throw him off the property and charge him with trespassing. __________________ "I have long taught that if you can't do it with a 30-06, you probably can't do it."
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| Posted: 03 Dec 2007 9:03 PM | ||
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| They should lose there jobs!! | ||
| Posted: 03 Dec 2007 9:08 PM | ||
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| Funny you say this. Have had multiple run-ins with the same group. Today was no different. | ||
| Posted: 03 Dec 2007 9:17 PM | ||
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Now that I know who you are dealing with, you will get nothing done locally, even with most state boys. I would contact F&G and lean on their ear hard. Also go with the newspaper idea. Call up to Trenton if nothing gets resolved with the CO's down here. There have been tons of complaints on these guys over the years.
If they see a buck on a field they think nothing of pulling off and going after it no mater whos property they are on. Sorry to say but you have a tough one there with those guys. |
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| Posted: 03 Dec 2007 9:19 PM | ||
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There have been tons of complaints on these guys over the years. I believe then its time for all of you that are affected to ban together to do something about this problem  There is strentgh in numbers
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| Posted: 03 Dec 2007 10:29 PM | ||
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dude good luck..your right they think who they are.and can do whatever they want.
i know they hunt near me with there pistols at night on the golf courses..and hunt in the water property __________________ HEY STU..
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| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 12:05 AM | ||
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Hackettstown and washington cops all do the same thing..... i just lost a piece of property cause a washington cop decides to move a property stake to make his stand legal on the club that leased the property next to mine. when that land owner found out he flipped and the story got screwed up along the way. the leased property land owner calls my land owner telling him i moved the property stake. Bam i lost it after 13yrs of hunting it. giveum a badge and wow nothing can touch them..... there are exceptions to that comment, but not many! __________________ Just when ya think ya knew it all, ya find someone who does know it all
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| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 7:28 AM | ||
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| if you have reservations on going to the local police department to make a complaint about one of it's officers, you should contact the county prosecutors office and make your complaint with them. this comes right out of the NJ Attorney General's Guidelines for law enforcement. | ||
| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 8:20 AM | ||
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i know they hunt near me with there pistols at night on the golf courses..and hunt in the water property I do believe that would be called poaching,not hunting!
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| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 8:49 AM Last Edited By: Stealthy_Bowman | ||
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I posted about a similar occurence a few years back on another web site.
When I used to live in Monmouth County, a piece I used to hunt was routinely driven by local LEO's. They actually used to put standers within 75ft. of a house, the home owner would be out there screaming and hollaring at the LEO's telling them to move further away from his house. Their reply was simply, "don't worry we'll leave soon". When I posted about this, I actually had one of the LEO's PM me and he threatened to press charges against me for talking about this on a public forum! To make a long story short, their continued illegal actions eventually led to the township banning all hunting on their properties... |
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| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 8:59 AM | ||
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To make a long story short, their continued illegal actions eventually led to the township banning all hunting on their properties... And I imajion THEY are the very ones charged with enforcing that ban wink wink........NJ the garbage state. __________________ The biggest thing I have learned of late is that many legislators will side with us if we patently and intelegently explain to them where we are coming from and where we are going.
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| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 9:07 AM | ||
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| Just because they carry a badge they think it's their place to hunt. They should be prosecuted just like any other criminal, and they should loose their jobs. | ||
| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 9:07 AM | ||
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And I imajion THEY are the very ones charged with enforcing that ban wink wink........NJ the garbage state. That's exactly right and it pisses me off to no end. Total BS and truly disgusting! |
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| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 9:10 AM | ||
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I think a VERY effective way to bring the point home is for you to bring out a BBQ, lawn chair, the whole works out onto his front lawn one Sunday morning. When this cop comes out yelling, you can remind him that you are enjoying his property in the same way that he enjoys trespassing on your property. Seriously set up a party on this guys lawn, block his driveway with your car if needed to make the point stick. He thinks your land is public, then show him his land is equally public.
My uncle is one of these kind of cops, a real grade A jerk who is perpetually above the law. |
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| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 9:30 AM | ||
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Perhaps a hunter supported petition to take their licenses away might send a message. Start with a letter to the editor in the local papers, no need for names-maybe a headline like "Local Police Officers Tresspass; Lawful Hunters Outraged" __________________ NJOA
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| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 10:04 AM | ||
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Start with a letter to the editor in the local papers They will withhold your name if you ask. Also consider one of those "investigative reporters" on a local TV news channel, they love to play "gotcha" with the cops. I would continue to make a big stink with the CO however. |
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| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 10:16 AM | ||
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| If it were me, I would call the County Prosecutor first as was suggest in a previous post. | ||
| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 11:29 AM | ||
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if you have reservations on going to the local police department to make a complaint about one of it's officers, you should contact the county prosecutors office and make your complaint with them. The above is absolutely correct. We had this problem a few years ago with some local LEO's. After a complaint to the county, the mucipal PD passed a personnel rule that called for disciplinary action if a similar complaint was substantiated-Now there is no problem. One of those guys now hunts with our crew during 6-day and actually declined to hunt one farm with us and waited in the car because we did not have the written permisison to be on the property form with us- (we actually have it, but not with us at the time)see what a little complaining can do __________________ Support the N.J.O.A. and the "Littel Amendment" An amendment to the New Jersey State Constitution that Guarantees the right to hunt, trap, and fish in New JerseyNew Jersey Outdoor Alliance
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| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 11:51 AM | ||
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| if you stop baiting with donuts they will go away | ||
| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 12:17 PM | ||
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| its not your piece..DONT WORRY ABOUT IT! god forbid someone else kills a deer near your property. now not only do you not want people hunting your land, you want to be selfish and not let anyone hunt your neighboring land? | ||
| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 12:34 PM | ||
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It isn't selfish, the neighbors asked him to watch and post the land. I'd do the same thing.
I work in zone 25 and have heard of this group. They have driven properties of guys I work with and those guys don't want them on their land either, but these dudes just don't care and a few of the local Troopers are friends with some of the culprits so they continue to get away with their crap. |
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| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 12:35 PM | ||
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Quote: His concern has nothing to do people hunting the adjacent property. Its all about people hunting where they don't have permission i.e. tresspassing. Bottom line if you don't have written permission you are tresspassing. It is pretty black and white.
its not your piece..DONT WORRY ABOUT IT! god forbid someone else kills a deer near your property. now not only do you not want people hunting your land, you want to be selfish and not let anyone hunt your neighboring land? |
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| Posted: 04 Dec 2007 12:40 PM | ||
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Perhaps a hunter supported petition to take their licenses away might send a message. Start with a letter to the editor in the local papers, no need for names-maybe a headline like "Local Police Officers Tresspass; Lawful Hunters Outraged" Yeah, that's what we need... more laws and regulations... did you take that out of the big book of gun control? If the current laws were enforced properly, we wouldn't need new legislation. __________________ Life Member NRA, NAHC, NAFC
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