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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:09 PM | ||
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  I've been pouring everything into getting a deer because last year I got nothin in ANY season. We ONLY eat wild game so having meat in the freezer isn't just a novelty for me.
Anyway I was fortunate enough to get a deer this gun season in NY. Dropped it off at the butcher, a local guy in northern NJ, and here we are 7 days later without a butchered deer. I told him I wanted the carcass back tonight and he tells me not to worry he will have it done tomorrow. Now I'm worried because he is very bad at returning phone calls, there was a guy in the driveway (he wasn't home the first time I went by) who said he had HIS deer for almost 2 weeks. No refrigeration, garage floor, we've had days where it hit 60 and most days in the lower 50's. What makes me most angry is that the guy wasn't even out in the garage working on the pile of deer, and on the several occasions I was there wasn't even home! The one time he was there I see some other guy butchering the deer and he's standing around with his hands in his pcokets. I'm sick to think that the meat is going to be wasted and that I won't have any meat. What do you guys think about this? I can't imagine that a week with the hide on and not even hoisted up would be OK but maybe some of you guys can enlighten me? |
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:11 PM | ||
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whats the name of that place so i never go there __________________ hoyt katera xl z3 cam 1/2
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:14 PM | ||
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| Before I mention names I want to make sure I'm not being paranoid here, I mean the guy had like 10-15 deer, has been in business for at least 4 years (could be a bunch longer than that too) and I can't imagine that he could regularly let deer spoil and stay in business. It's funny cause he seems to be the only one that offers vaccuum sealing. Guess he figures people like to lock in that rotten deer taste. | ||
| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:16 PM | ||
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fair enough Quote: Guess he figures people like to lock in that rotten deer taste.   __________________ hoyt katera xl z3 cam 1/2
easton st epic arrows rage 2 blade broadheads there is nothing better than being in the woods or on water with family and friends |
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:16 PM | ||
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| It is illegal to bring a deer across the State line, or at least certain parts. You should have had it butchered in NY. If you had brought it to a better butcher, he would probably have refused the NY tagged deer or worse, called you into F&W. Be careful. | ||
| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:18 PM | ||
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It is illegal to bring a deer across the State line, or at least certain parts. You should have had it butchered in NY. If you had brought it to a better butcher, he would probably have refused the NY tagged deer or worse, called you into F&W. Be careful Since when, as long as it was tagged properly in NY it is not illegal to bring it home. __________________ "from my cold dead hands"
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:21 PM | ||
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| I spoke with an officer last year and he confirmed it was fine... that may be referring to live animals or something. | ||
| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:21 PM Last Edited By: 11pointer | ||
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pkeeler are sure about that because thats news to me..... and my butcher down here takes my pennsy deer and takes alot of pennsy guys and he even does bears there too __________________ i pay to hunt here....do you "pay to hike here"
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:22 PM | ||
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Quote: Sorry but you are dead wrong.It is illegal to bring a deer across the State line, or at least certain parts. You should have had it butchered in NY. If you had brought it to a better butcher, he would probably have refused the NY tagged deer or worse, called you into F&W. Be careful. __________________ Wildlife Taxidermy By Richard G. Santomauro
1732 Hgy # 71 Wall NJ 07719 Phone 732-449-5950 Web pages http://www.rgswildlifetaxidermy.com http://www.VELVET-ANTLERS.COM E-Mail rgswildlife@yahoo.com Life member - NRA & NJFSC: Standard Member UBNJ, NTA, GSTA, New Jersey Outdoor Alliance. |
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:25 PM | ||
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Here's a quote from Division web page (I added the bold): it also mentions about LIVE deer there.
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/pdf/cwdqanda.pdf How can butchers and taxidermists help? Use food waste dumpsters for disposal of waste materials from your facility.This will eliminate possible exposure of deer to contaminated waste, which in the case of taxidermy operations may include attractive salty tissues. |
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:26 PM | ||
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sorry guess I don't know how to use bold. Here it is:
How can butchers and taxidermists help? Use food waste dumpsters for disposal of waste materials from your facility. This is particularly important if you receive deer or elk from any of the states or provinces listed as having CWD in wild and/or captive deer. This will eliminate possible exposure of deer to contaminated waste, which in the case of taxidermy operations may include attractive salty tissues. |
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:26 PM | ||
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| It's perfectly legal to bring a deer across state lines except for deer from a few states/regions of states (Hampshire County WV) and Canadian provinces where CWD has been confirmed. There are USDA regulations and some states have more strict regulations than the Federal rules but here in NJ I am not aware of any restriction on deer from NY. | ||
| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:29 PM | ||
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and my butcher down here takes my pennsy deer and takes alot of pennsy guys and he even does bears there too then you thought you were breaking the law 
Had to ask.. Someone else would have... __________________ "from my cold dead hands"
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:30 PM | ||
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Montega, we are dying to know who the shitty butcher is??? Let us have it.... __________________ "from my cold dead hands"
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:32 PM | ||
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| I get my deer back in 1-2 days. I use a guy in Warwick ny off of route 94, I bring him my NY and NJ deer. 7-14 days is crazy. | ||
| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:33 PM | ||
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| THE BUTCHERS NAME IS ..... | ||
| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:34 PM | ||
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you might as well leave that deer to finish rotting on his garage floor.. what a friggen waste.. __________________ "Fat, Drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life son."
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:35 PM | ||
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:36 PM | ||
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It is illegal to bring a deer across the State line, or at least certain parts. You should have had it butchered in NY. If you had brought it to a better butcher, he would probably have refused the NY tagged deer or worse, called you into F&W. Be careful. That makes about as much sense as an ash tray on a motorcycle. Hopefully it is not the case. |
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:36 PM | ||
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:37 PM | ||
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Spend a couple of hours and learn to do it yourself. Its not that hard. You will find the meat has natural boundaries when cutting. Just follow along and trim off the silver skin and you will be done before you know it. If you want the processed stuff like sausages or burgers buy a grinder and add some pork otherwise I cut the Tloins, steaks, and stew or "cubes" for the grill.
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:37 PM | ||
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Hopefully it is not the case. its not... I still want the name of the deer wasting butcher. Hopefully he has good excuse and this is not his normal procedure.. Like bipass surgery or something.. __________________ "from my cold dead hands"
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:38 PM | ||
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Look guys, you all know what the temps have been like for the past 7 days- a couple of days in the 50's maybe 60 but also some cold days. And ceratinly cold nights. If you think this deer is OK I don't want to point him out- he didn't say he had any family emergencies or anything and MAN was I PISSED OFF to go over there today and find him not home then in his house with the garage locked. Figure if he is so behind he'd be working out there!
I'm thinking maybe the deer aren't even THERE maybe that other guy I saw took them with him. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, maybe he has issues I'm not getting or maybe a week really isn't a big deal. Or maybe I ought to just post his name wherever some other poot hunter might make the same mistake. Just don't know. |
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:40 PM | ||
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I hear ya... Do your homework first.. If your deer was sitting on the floor for 2 weeks in the warmer weather he is a jerk.. He should have atleast hung the dam thing up if he thought it was cold enough in the garage. 40 degrees and lower I will hang them up to 2 weeks if I can. 1 week mandatory if its the right temp in the garage. Good Luck Let us know either way. __________________ "from my cold dead hands"
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:41 PM | ||
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| poot hunters or poor hunters too. All I know is I'm not brining my deer OR poot there to be butchered! | ||
| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:42 PM | ||
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| No one wants to make the same mistake you did,we all no its been to warm to leave a deer lay on the ground for 7 days...the meat is bad | ||
| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:42 PM | ||
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If that deer has been sitting 7-10 days in the temps we had with no refrigeration....i wouldnt feed it to a dog. sorry about your deer.
if he was having personal problems, a phone call to you and his other customers would have been nice. __________________ Visit my store at http://www.PatsOutdoorStore.com/ If you don't see an item you want, just call or email me and I will get it. Pat@PatsOutdoorStore.com
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:43 PM | ||
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40 degrees and lower Anything warmer then that is just asking for trouble, 40 degrees is the standard as set in all the health regulations for stores etc, when it comes to their food cases. __________________ Proud Member of:
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:44 PM Last Edited By: red65 | ||
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Seven days is border line in a refrigerator(If it was butchered)never mind in a garage....
Unless it was hanging @ 35 or 40 deg.. __________________ There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Statistics.
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| Posted: 27 Nov 2007 7:57 PM | ||
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| At least give us what town,im sure most of us will be out next week and if were unable to butcher our own it would be nice to feel at ease when dropping off our deer that is will be done correctly | ||
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