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NJ Hunter / New Jersey Deer, Bear & Turkey Hunting / Deer Action / Deer Zone 19 / Can't find 'em
Posted:  24 Nov 2007 1:02 PM
So I was about to climb out of my stand at 9:30, lowered my bow.  Get ready to climb down, and here comes a buck.  He has a smallish rack, but a big body with lots of gray spots on him...  one that looks like it could be a scar from a high shot.

I quickly get my bow get it ready turn and I have a 20 yard broadside.  I took the shot and it hit twords the front heard a loud thwack and the buck took off.

I see him double back about 10 minutes later.  I get down fine the arrow.  It is broken in half and the broadhead is missing.  I found a tuff of Gray hair with dark tips. TONS of bright red blood with lots of bubbles in it.  As I walk down the blood trail you could easily spot the blood.  It goes into a thicket of laurels.  I figure Bingo.....  No Deer.  BIG pile of blood that seems to go in circles and then nothing.

My father-in-law and I start hands an knees searching... no blood.  Walk the trail twords the swamp... nothing.  Start doing a grid search nothing....   Im going to grab some lunch and try it again.    There must be something I missed in that laurel stand.
Posted:  24 Nov 2007 1:11 PM
How much penatration did you get?
From what you say about being broken behing the head sounds like you hit the shoulder.

Muscle wounds bleed great for the first lil bit then peter off to nothing..
Posted:  24 Nov 2007 1:12 PM   Last Edited By: oneshotkill
Tons of bright red blood w/bubbles usually indicates a lung hit. He may have criss-crossed over the same blood trail and threw you off. He's probably laying in some thick stuff that you walked by. Happened to me several times. The best thing you can do is to come back with a bunch of guys to line up and cover more ground. Good luck.
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Posted:  24 Nov 2007 1:13 PM
Sounds like maybe you caught one lung and hit the shoulder. Marke off the last blood and start circling the area until you get back on blood. look for broken branches and fresh prints if he went in thick stuff. Try not to disturb anything if at all possible and don't let someone get out in front of you unless they are good at spotting blood. I have a friend that just goes off in any direction when tracking, we always yell at him because he can wreck a blood trail. Best of Luck
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Posted:  24 Nov 2007 1:28 PM
The arrow was about 3/4 covered in blood.

My father in law is helping me but he grew up in Manhattan and is not a hunter.  HE is constantly walking way to fast on whatever trail he sees.

Im going to head back out alone for a bit, Im sure he will be back out to help me soon.

I figure I will head back to those Thick Laurels and try to find the blood again
Posted:  24 Nov 2007 4:00 PM
goodluck to you,hope you find him
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Posted:  24 Nov 2007 5:10 PM
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I see him double back about 10 minutes later.

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BIG pile of blood that seems to go in circles and then nothing.



I had one back track on me once. I never believed what I read until I experianced it myself.The deer finaly sucomed over 100 yds in the opposite direction. Same type of hit. I lost the blood and did a grid circular searh and found a drop 80 yds from the last. A grid search would be the way to go. Good luck and remember, they're smarter than we think they are.
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Posted:  24 Nov 2007 5:22 PM
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hit twords the front heard a loud thwack and the buck took off



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From what you say about being broken behind the head sounds like you hit the shoulder


Sugar said it all..."thwack" is not a sound you should be hearing....Thud, thunk, thunmp...yes.

The last time I heard "thwack" I watched the deer run away with less than 2" of pentration..right in the shoulder...he eventually broke off the shaft right at the ferule about 200yds away...the deer lives to this day, albeit with a limp...

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Posted:  24 Nov 2007 5:31 PM
No luck....   I wonder if someone took it.  The last spot of blood we found was right at the intersection of 5 trails.  There are a decent number of hunters out there (I saw none today, and am not friends with any of them) and guys come by on thier Quads.....

Im sick to my stomach thinking about it.  There is no way that Deer is alive, the amount of blood.

I shot the deer at 9am and searched for it until 4, with a 1 hour break for lunch mixed in.  There was no where else for me to look,  I had to check atleast a 500 yard radius from that last drop......


My Bow season is over.....  I hope to have better luck when the guns come out.
Posted:  25 Nov 2007 9:36 AM
Went out this morning for one last look.... 

This is the first time I have ever lost a deer....  it is also the first time I ever had to search this far for one.

The worst thing about it is that I do not think I took a bad shot.  He was about 20 yards away, I drew and waited for him to step into a shooting lane.  If I had waited for him to take another 10 steps he might have winded me and would have been even further off then he was. 

The shot felt good and I thought I hit him well.  But I guess not good enough. 

Posted:  25 Nov 2007 11:50 AM
If you went out this morning and couldnt find it or didnt kick up any turkey buzzards feeding on your deer then chances are somebody grabbed it on you.
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Posted:  25 Nov 2007 12:22 PM
hey you did everything you can, you put in all that time in trying to find him. its either he is still alive or someone jacked him on you. i think we have all gone thru this situatuion before. i dont kno if u gun hunt but goodluck to you bro and i hope you get one in the gun season.
Posted:  25 Nov 2007 12:30 PM
That shoulder is a bitch, If you got a lung but no lower exit hole, it is a tough trail to follow. Sounds like it might have got taken though.
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Posted:  25 Nov 2007 6:19 PM
All blood has bubbles in it...it carries oxogen.  Lung blood bubbles will be more frothy and muscle blood with have pin head bubbles. Dont let the bubbles convince ya its a lung shot.

If you were getting a lot of blood at first there was no reason if it was a lung shot it would slow down or peter out.
Posted:  25 Nov 2007 7:42 PM
I shot one a few weeks ago and found so much blood I knew the deer had to be dead.  I looked and looked over 14 hours.

Circling around after the last spot of blood. We knew he was dead but couldn't find him.

A week later I get a call from a guy who knew I had lost a buck and his neighbor had found it dead and eaten by coyotes.

I had pushed the buck over 500 yards. I trailed him for the first 100 yards before I lost the bright red bubbly blood.  He then ran through the woods, through a field, across a road, across a golf course, across another road and into an old horse pasture and died.

These deer can go a really long way.  I felt terrible too.  Sorry about the deer.