Witnessed a skull cap and run..

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its illegal to remove the antlers from a road kill

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and you wonder why hunting and fishing get a bad rap!!

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Am I the only one who finds it circumspect that a person joins this boards and once agian immediately makes their initial post about an illegal activity as if it is somehow related to hunting when in fact they provide no evidence whatsoever to indicat that it was a legally licensed hunter or fisher that was involved....

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Xpert Hunter said:
YES

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good point 11pointer

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nd i am new to this site..A hunting buddy of mine turned me onto it just a few short weeks ago..I never thought my first post would be about something like this..So i thought i would share the story and see what others thought of the subject..

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Cut people some slack.

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it is supposed to help another bone get hard.

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It is also very hard to explain yourself with a few sentences

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 6:11 PM
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I was on my to the store with my daughter this morning ( 11:15 am) and witnessed two guys standing over a dead 8 pointer on Perrine road (rte 34)...At first i thought maybe they hit it and were trying to get it off the road..Turns out one of them had a hack saw.. So I pulled into the Outback steak house parking lot directly across from them...I couldnt believe what i was watching..These guys were actually skull capping this 8 pointer on a major road in broad daylight..I thought about calling the police but didnt because i was unsure if it was legal or not..Plus they were gone in less than 3 minutes..Now i know this happens all the time and im not one to judge..Buy my 15 year old daughter witnessed this as well..And its hard enough trying to convince her the importance of hunting and its role in management and conservation..But trying to explain this to her wasnt an easy thing.

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 6:31 PM
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They should have pulled it into the woods first if they were going to do something like that. __________________ What makes a man a man? Is it his origins, the way he comes to life? I don't think so. It's the choices he makes. Not how he starts things but how he decides to end them. Member PBA local#105 Member UBNJ

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 6:36 PM Last Edited By: jcchartboy
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Vince, That is a shocking first post...do you hunt, and were you just visiting? JC

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 6:37 PM
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Should have taken down their vehicle plate info and called the PD. to those that do this __________________ Proud Member of: F.M.B.A. Local 84. UBNJ. NRA. NAHC. RH Sportsmens Club

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 6:40 PM Last Edited By: jcchartboy
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Quote: its illegal to remove the antlers from a road kill Not because there is anything wrong with utilizing the antlers of the dead animal, ( I think everyone here would agree utilizing natures bounty to the fullest is an integral part of being a hunter)...The law exist only because there are a number of other violations that can't be prosecuted unless there is a law against taking the antlers off a dead animal...(while their activity was clearly criminal by NJ law..that does not mean these people had any ill intent..after all...remember ever person that baits deer in this state would be considered a criminal in most others...) IMHO...It all comes down to intent...that can only be decided on a case by case basis dependent on the facts of the individual situation JC

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 6:34 PM
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its illegal to remove the antlers from a road kill

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 6:40 PM
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happens all the time __________________ Bordentown Deer Club..Tabernacle NJ In The Heart Of The Pines "We Love Our Country...We Love Our Country Nice And Loud"!!! "If you don't like the US, we will bring Democracy to your country"

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 6:48 PM
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and you wonder why hunting and fishing get a bad rap!!. . amazing that it will take two grown men to cut the horns off, but neither can drag it off into the woods..????

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 6:55 PM
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icchartboy-- To answer your question..Yes i do hunt.. And i am new to this site..A hunting buddy of mine turned me onto it just a few short weeks ago..I never thought my first post would be about somthing like this..So i thought i would share the story and see what others thought of the subject..

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 6:56 PM
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Quote: and you wonder why hunting and fishing get a bad rap!! EXACTLY __________________ Proud Member of: F.M.B.A. Local 84. UBNJ. NRA. NAHC. RH Sportsmens Club

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:00 PM Last Edited By: jcchartboy
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Am I the only one who finds it circumspect that a person joins this boards and once again immediately makes their initial post about an illegal activity as if it is somehow related to hunting when in fact they provide no evidence whatsoever to indicate that it was a legally licensed hunter or fisher-person that was involved.... JC

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:03 PM
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How do I start a post? I have a couple pixs of bucks I caught on cam. New to this!!! sorry

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:05 PM
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Quote: Am I the only one who finds it circumspect that a person joins this boards and once agian immediately makes their initial post about an illegal activity as if it is somehow related to hunting YES

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:05 PM
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i agree with you jc before you even said it... when i 1st read it i thought it was peculiar __________________ i pay to hunt here....do you "pay to hike here" CROSSBOWS are divisive....look whats happening to hunter unity 8 out of 10 posts on crossbows are negative..."how was it a scientific survey"

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:08 PM Last Edited By: MarksWorld
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Quote: Am I the only one who finds it circumspect that a person joins this boards and once agian immediately makes their initial post about an illegal activity as if it is somehow related to hunting when in fact they provide no evidence whatsoever to indicat that it was a legally licensed hunter or fisher that was involved.... I dont see anything wrong with posting what he saw. The answer from all us should have been ITS ILLEGAL though. I cant see condoning an illegal activity. Although you do bring up a good point... Hows this guy know they were hunters cutting off the antlers? Maybe an anti fishing around for something bad!

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:09 PM
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No your not, I too look at the first few posts as well, sometimes I comment sometimes I don't. Sometimes the comment I leave can lead to other posts from the originator and you can get a better feel for that person,(Truthfull, making it up, an Anti) whatever. I agree in most cases a newbie would make there first post and introduce themselves to the family, but who knows. __________________ Proud Member of: F.M.B.A. Local 84. UBNJ. NRA. NAHC. RH Sportsmens Club

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:11 PM
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he pulled in and watched them he saw they had a hacksaw but watched for 3 minutes instead of pulling off....if it bothered him that much that his 15 yr old daughter watched this why did he watch them through the whole process until the left __________________ i pay to hunt here....do you "pay to hike here" CROSSBOWS are divisive....look whats happening to hunter unity 8 out of 10 posts on crossbows are negative..."how was it a scientific survey"

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:15 PM
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Quote: Xpert Hunter said: YES As usual...wrong.... JC

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:17 PM
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good point 11pointer

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:18 PM
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Quote: good point 11pointer That point is exactly what raised my concern to begin with...Then when I see #1....go figure.. JC

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:22 PM Last Edited By: jcchartboy
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Quote: nd i am new to this site..A hunting buddy of mine turned me onto it just a few short weeks ago..I never thought my first post would be about something like this..So i thought i would share the story and see what others thought of the subject.. In that case...I hope you understand my reasons for not taking the post at face value.. I ask that you accept my apology and remain a productive member of the board... JC

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:22 PM
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I think some of you got the wrong idea judging from these replies... Ive been hunting proudly for over 30 yrs..And i've done more than my share of defending this sport to many who dont understand it..Now i know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but in my defense i wasnt trying to post anything negative on hunters..I simply posted somthing i witnessed being done to a road kill this morning..I thought this was a "road report board"?.. Vince

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:23 PM
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Just because his 1st post is something that you (JC) don’t agree with, should not implicate suspicion. You guys go off all the time on anyone who posts anything you don’t agree with. It is also very hard to explain yourself with a few sentences on a message board. Cut people some slack.

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:25 PM
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as you said you have had to defend hunting and we were just doing the same. We are constantly on the look out for the a-holes. Thanks for the 3rd post explaining the situation and welcome to the board!

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:28 PM
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Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:31 PM
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So let's start over: Welcome to the site Vince66, __________________ Proud Member of: F.M.B.A. Local 84. UBNJ. NRA. NAHC. RH Sportsmens Club

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:34 PM
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I think it must have someone using the antlers for medicine. I hear that some ethnic groups do this, they grind them up and sell them it is supposed to help another bone get hard. Why would a hunter want the antlers?

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:38 PM
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Quote: it is supposed to help another bone get hard. __________________ Proud Member of: F.M.B.A. Local 84. UBNJ. NRA. NAHC. RH Sportsmens Club

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:40 PM Last Edited By: jcchartboy
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Quote: It is also very hard to explain yourself with a few sentences That is exactly why the average new member does not join the board and use their first few sentences to discuss illegal activities in a manner that makes them appear to be associated with licensed hunters.... JC

Posted: 28 Oct 2007 7:43 PM
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I really do not see anything in his post accusing licensed hunters of doing this?