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NJ Hunter / New Jersey Politics & Guns / NJ Firearms ID Card / I'm Expunged! 9 Weeks & $121.00
Posted:  04 Oct 2007 9:16 AM
In case there is anyone here on this forum that, like me, had some minor scruffs with the law when they were younger, etc ...... and are thinking about getting an expungement, so they may get a NJ Firearms ID card.... do it!

I did it, without a lawyer, and it was easy. As long as you meet the simple qualifications for expungement, the state does NOT bust your chops.

In this morning's mail, is my Expungement Order, signed by the judge in Union County Superior Court.

Today is exactly 9 weeks since I started it ... it took about 9 days to get my official Criminal Record from the NJ State Police, and the rest of the time, the Superiour Court had it.

I did everything through the mail. I did not have to attend any hearing, etc.

$30 (state police criminal record) + $52 (petition the court) + $39 (postage - certified/return receipt letters) = $121

Now I have that monkey off my back.

Funny thing is .... I have a safe full of guns I acquired without a FID. Now that I have a FID, the family budget is so tight, I can't really buy any guns. lol
Posted:  04 Oct 2007 9:19 AM

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Posted:  04 Oct 2007 9:43 AM
Yes, but now that you have an FID, you can sell your guns to buy other, cooler guns
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Posted:  04 Oct 2007 9:51 AM
Brianb,
Where can I get information on this?
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Posted:  04 Oct 2007 10:15 AM
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Brianb,
Where can I get information on this?
New Jersey Legal Services ....
http://www.lsnj.org/

Look for ... "Clearing Your Record 2007 .." ....
http://www.lsnj.org/selfhelp.htm#clearing

All the info you need, minus the forms, is right there .... written in plain, simple English. You can view all the info right online there.
http://www.lsnjlaw.org/english/courts/statecourts/municipal/cyr/i ...

When I did mine, you could download the neccessary forms from their website, and fill them out. Now, I see, they want you to buy their $15 book to get all the forms. But, considering, its $15 well spent, and LSNJ has really performed a important service to the citizens.

Any other questions, ask away.

Good luck.
Posted:  04 Oct 2007 10:16 AM
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Posted:  05 Oct 2007 5:19 AM
this is not a good place to post this particular accomplishment
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Posted:  05 Oct 2007 5:43 AM   Last Edited By: 230grain hollowpoint
Thanx  I am going to check that out....I have no more trouble than anyone else with the FID...I have one. My problem comes with the NICS. When I buy a gun it takes several hours to come back if I go on a week day during business hours. On a weekend it doesn't come back until Monday. That really screws me for making a purchase at a gun show. Not to mention it is embarrasing

I ran a backround check on myself and found nothing although there were a few minor incidents back in the '70's I recall,but they don't show on the check I ran.  With one exception the charges were dropped. The exception was a misdeamenor resulting from a scuffle. 

The problem is either that or this guy down South. He has an identical first, middle, and last name and a somewhat similar SSN. He is a rash on the police blotters of FL;La and TX. The last I checked he was in jail in TX.
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Posted:  05 Oct 2007 6:23 AM
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Funny thing is .... I have a safe full of guns I acquired without a FID


Nothing like telling the whole world that you broke the law buy acquiring firearms illegally.

Ever think of what the Statute of limitations on that might be ?

I'm not trying to break em for ya, but think before you type. You never know who's reading these posts.
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Posted:  05 Oct 2007 6:34 AM
Did I miss something?  I didn't read anything about a firearms offense...

I'm pretty sure any "violent" offense will cause a delay...  Ever have someone pick a fight with you at a bar or otherwise and you decide to oblige...?  If the cops show up and make a stink and everyone winds up arrested...

two consenting adults should have the right to kick each others teeth in if they choose to... Oh well.
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Posted:  05 Oct 2007 7:13 AM
Congrats
Posted:  05 Oct 2007 7:16 AM
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I have a safe full of guns I acquired without a FID.

now go to town hall and get them into your name
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Posted:  05 Oct 2007 7:17 AM
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the family budget is so tight

join the club my friend. I have one year to go to finish paying off a loan and then I will have an extra 1200 a month. Til then the belt is tightened!
Posted:  05 Oct 2007 7:20 AM
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two consenting adults should have the right to kick each others teeth in if they choose to
ABSOLUTELY
Posted:  05 Oct 2007 7:31 AM
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Nothing like telling the whole world that you broke the law buy acquiring firearms illegally.


He never said anything about buying the guns illegally.  They could have been aquired when he lived out of state, from an inheritance or other legal means.

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now go to town hall and get them into your name


NJ does not require registration.  It is voluntary.  NEVER, EVER register a gun.  Ever.
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Posted:  05 Oct 2007 7:34 AM
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NJ does not require registration.  It is voluntary.  NEVER, EVER register a gun.  Ever.

so what happens when you get pulled over and the gun is in someone else's name are you in trouble
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Posted:  05 Oct 2007 7:41 AM
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so what happens when you get pulled over and the gun is in someone else's name are you in trouble


Explain this "gun in someone elses's name?  How does a gun get in "someone's name"?
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Posted:  05 Oct 2007 7:46 AM
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Explain this "gun in someone elses's name?  How does a gun get in "someone's name"?

if someone else bought the gun and he is in posession of it
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Posted:  05 Oct 2007 7:55 AM
unless the gun was reported stolen, its no big deal,,,,no need to register long guns in nj,,,,
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Posted:  05 Oct 2007 7:56 AM
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unless the gun was reported stolen, its no big deal,,,,no need to register long guns in nj,,,,

so then why do I need a fid ,just to purchase guns
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Posted:  05 Oct 2007 7:59 AM   Last Edited By: bloodtrails
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if someone else bought the gun and he is in posession of it


You're assuming the firearms were REGISTERED.  In most places in the US they are not.  You're also assuming he obtained these firearms through illegal means.

In NJ, in order to take ownership of a firearm you must fill out the appropriate paperwork (certificate of eligibility if private sale) or in the case of a handgun a handgun transfer form (not the official name).  This can all be done privately, NO REGISTRATION.  (although the handgun form is a form of registration).

If you are a resident of most states in America (not including NJ) firearms sales from one resident to another (private) is just like buying any other item.  You walk up to a person selling a firearm, hand them a form of payment and take your firearm.  No registration.  No forms to fill out.  God bless America.
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Posted:  05 Oct 2007 8:01 AM
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so then why do I need a fid ,just to purchase guns


EXACTLY!  A NJ FPID  (Firearms PURCHASER Identification card) is ONLY needed for PURCHASE of a firearm in NJ.  Period.
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Posted:  05 Oct 2007 8:26 AM
Quoting Beef
this is not a good place to post this particular accomplishment
Why not? I thought that maybe I was helping other people like me --- not real criminals, but are still prevented by NJ's wacko gun laws to exercise my Second Ammendment right. If I lived in Pennsylvania,or another state, I could buy guns ---- I would pass the NICS(National Instant Criminal Background Check System). I would also pass any additional parameters (usually domestic violence issues) that certain states (including Pa) add to the NICS check. Only NJ, where you have to get a FID to buy a frigging little Crosman pump BB gun, prevented me from buying a gun.

Expungement has been discussed many times on this forum. The stupidest, most minor infractions (including the most minor of disorderly persons offenses handled in Municpal Court, or even handled through the mail by mailing in a check (fine) along with the ticket (summons)) can prevent you from receiving a FID in this stupid state.

Even the state of NJ realizes that expungement is something that is needed. You can NOT expunge any serious crimes .... manslaughter, rape, arson, robbery, perjury, public official corruption, the majority of drug offenses, etc etc., and you have to wait up to a decade before you can petition the court.

NJ would rather just disarm every citizen in the state. I started this topic thread to encourage people not to let the corrupt, cowardly democrats in Trenton trample on their Constitutional Rights.
Quoting NS911
Nothing like telling the whole world that you broke the law buy acquiring firearms illegally.

Ever think of what the Statute of limitations on that might be ?

I'm not trying to break em for ya, but think before you type. You never know who's reading these posts.
I know you're not busting my chops. All our guns were purchased legally. And, if I were to sell a gun, I would insist on the other person having a FID and we do the Eligibilty Form. Though I may disagree with a law, I still don't break it ... I can't afford to.

Quoting 230Grain
The problem is either that or this guy down South. He has an identical first, middle, and last name and a somewhat similar SSN. He is a rash on the police blotters of FL;La and TX. The last I checked he was in jail in TX.
That's frigging scary!
Posted:  06 Oct 2007 2:59 AM
brian i just thought with the title of the thread and all the political crap lateley it may not have been the best place to put it.  other people reading this site might get the impression that we all amy need expungments...  just a thought..
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Posted:  06 Oct 2007 6:57 AM
Congrats I'm glad everything worked out for you.
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