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Posted:  30 Aug 2007 9:11 PM
I started using a whisker biscuit rest this year and had a question for you guys & gals that have some experience with them.  What vanes or feathers hold up the best going thru the WB rest?  I am shooting brand new easton XX75 aluminum arrows and after a few shots the vanes are curling and one is tearing already.  I've resorted to shooting some older arrows figuring I'll trash those vanes and try to keep the new ones decent for hunting.  How do you practice with these rests without trashing your vanes?  Is there a vane type or certain helical fletch that will hold up better?
Posted:  30 Aug 2007 9:12 PM
blazers  all the way
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Posted:  30 Aug 2007 9:15 PM
Feathers i shot regular vanes last year they worked fine but i like the way the feathers shot better remember cock feathers up not down the bottom black whiskers are thicker than the top
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Posted:  30 Aug 2007 9:36 PM
I have great luck with feathers even with hard helical.  Just don't use quickspins.  They will warp instantly.
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Posted:  30 Aug 2007 9:38 PM
i use feathers through mine the fly truer in my honest opinion
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Posted:  30 Aug 2007 9:41 PM
I'm shooting 4" feathers with helical for the last five years.  I set aside six just for target shooting.  No problems here.  I love the WB.
Posted:  30 Aug 2007 9:47 PM
Thanks for the info maybe I'll have to try feathers.  I just ordered another 2 dz arrows with 4" vanes.  I guess I'll shoot them until they wear out then re-fletch with feathers.  I thought the feathers would get beat up worse than the vanes, I guess I was wrong.
Posted:  30 Aug 2007 10:19 PM
blazers work very well....
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Posted:  30 Aug 2007 11:56 PM
Blazers work great and last a long time, 4" feathers seem to take the least pressure to pull it through. I have had good results with both..
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Posted:  31 Aug 2007 12:14 AM
Blazers for sure. I have tried everything, they are what I found to be the best for me.
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Posted:  31 Aug 2007 12:54 AM   Last Edited By: henro
Blazers PERIOD.  They're designed specifically with the biscuit in mind but work great in all aplications.  They are much more durable and very stable.  They are also much faster than feathers.  Compared to 4" feathers/vanes: at 40 yards a 4" will lose ~12fps where as a blazer will only lose 4fps.  I've shot with blazers at 60 yards and still have the stability with the arrows tracking true and hitting right where they're aimed.  They are slightly taller to maintain the stability.  Many people are ignorant to them just looking at their size.  Shoot blazers and you'll never go back.
Posted:  31 Aug 2007 7:58 AM
i have been using feathers with no problem, but i would like to try the blazers heard they do a good job. what size blazers are you guys using
Posted:  31 Aug 2007 11:13 AM
Do the blazers require a special fletching jig due to them being taller than a standard vane?  I may try re-fletching some of my older arrows with blazers since so many folks are using them with the WB.
Posted:  31 Aug 2007 1:38 PM
Blazers only come in 2" and don't require any special jig.
Posted:  31 Aug 2007 2:22 PM
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cock feathers up not down


I have been shooting a whisker biscuit with whatever vanes come on xx78 arrows for several years with no problems. I set the vanes at the 12, 4 and 8 o'clock positions, but I set the cock feather at 8 just as a matter of personal preference.
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Posted:  31 Aug 2007 3:56 PM
Cock feather up on the biscuits. You see the different colored bristles are stiifer and in order to pass through them ckeanly cock up is the best way to orientate them.
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Posted:  31 Aug 2007 5:35 PM
Beaver man, WhiskerBiscuit, WHY am I getting a mental image of 70's porn stars?
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Posted:  31 Aug 2007 6:39 PM
I'll have to try the blazers. I have the same problem with vanes. Thanks for the info.

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Posted:  31 Aug 2007 7:35 PM
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have been shooting a whisker biscuit with whatever vanes come on xx78 arrows for several years with no problems. I set the vanes at the 12, 4 and 8 o'clock positions,


That's how I was shooting them (cock vane up) and after only 4-5 times through the WB the vanes were all wavy, one was tearing, one was pulling off of the shaft.  I wonder what the diffeence is in these vanes I have.  They came from easton fletched.  Maybe easton is trying to keep cost down by putting cheap vanes on their arrows??
Posted:  31 Aug 2007 7:37 PM
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I set the vanes at the 12, 4 and 8 o'clock positions, but I set the cock feather at 8 just as a matter of personal preference.


Correction: Odd colored (cock Feather) Vane at 8 o'clock. I may be wrong, but I don't believe there is a difference in stiffness in vanes.
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Posted:  31 Aug 2007 7:44 PM
I don't know. I bought my last dozen arrows from Franks Tackle in Ringwood, but I use to get them from Bowhunters warehouse. My freind also uses a newer quickshot WB and has no problem other than slight rippling after a bunch of shots. Who knows maybe the center opening is too tight to your arrow?
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Posted:  31 Aug 2007 7:53 PM
Mine is also the newer quick shot large diameter aluminum model which I believe is the largest opening they make.  I'm shooting 2413's and they don't seem tight in the WB.

The dark bristles on the bottom are stiffer than the others.  They basically provide the support where the others just keep your arrow from falling off the rest so to speak.
Posted:  10 Sep 2007 9:20 PM
all this biscuit take is getten me hungry.
Posted:  10 Sep 2007 9:24 PM
qad rest otherwise your wasting your money and time
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Posted:  10 Sep 2007 9:45 PM
I shot the Wb with the new 2in quickspinST  and they work great.
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Posted:  10 Sep 2007 10:21 PM
I use 4'' feathers with my bisqiut. heavy offset heical, easton epic 400 with 100 grain heads. shoots very well. i think its more consistant than with the 4'' vains. although, i heard that the 2'' vanes shoot well through the bisqiut, esp if you use a mechanical head. dunno though, dont use that set up.
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Posted:  11 Sep 2007 6:41 AM
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I am shooting brand new easton XX75 aluminum arrows

Just a word of warning/advice... a friend of mine had the same problem with the same arrow (though they were older eastons).  I refletched them for him and had a tough time finding a glue that would stick to the aluminum.  I still don't know exactly what the problem was, it may have been a specific year that had a strange varnish on the arrow.  But regardless I had to sand off the sheen on the arrow and glue it on with Platinum glue (goat tuff and fast fletch just tore right off after one or two shots through the WB).  So if you refletch the new arrows, don't be surprised if you have a similar problem.
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Posted:  25 Sep 2007 8:46 PM
blazer but i seriously recamend the quad ultra rest
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Posted:  15 May 2008 8:08 PM
It sounds like your rest isn't set properly to your knock point. I shoot cock feather up no problems
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