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| Posted: 10 Jul 2007 10:17 PM | ||
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Man I was driving out and there was a HUGE 10pt right on the side of the road feeding! I need to get a picture of that bad boy he is a brute! Big body to!
Can't wait to hear which one of paterson's finest in blue will shot him in early bow season! __________________ DB's Euro Mount Service
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 3:43 AM | ||
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Quote: why do you assume only cops hunt there? the son of the owner from a well name archery/firearm shop got caught hunting there, as well as others
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 4:56 AM | ||
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Quote: I agree, it is true of most honey holes that are poached - everyone with the mentality takes their shot. The difference lies in what happens when an individual is caught......and that can be dependant who that individual is. Too, I believe that some "individuals" won't get caught because their friends do the catching and cover their back. That is what I read between the lines in Deadbolt's comment. This stuff is basic human nature,. We are such a smart monkey - as soon as we learned to "play" we learned to cheat.why do you assume only cops hunt there? the son of the owner from a well name archery/firearm shop got caught hunting there, as well as others __________________  Helping deer go up the food chain since 1979. 
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 7:44 AM | ||
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why do you assume only cops hunt there? the son of the owner from a well name archery/firearm shop got caught hunting there, as well as others not just the boys in blue...i know civilians poach it but you know as well as I do that the paterson and passaic county boys do a good job by themselves. __________________ DB's Euro Mount Service
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 6:13 PM | ||
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Quote: No I don't know that, if I or you did then we have evidence and would have to inform the departments or we could be charged from holding information to a crime, I hear rumors and that is it
...i know civilians poach it but you know as well as I do that the paterson and passaic county boys do a good job by themselves |
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 6:48 PM Last Edited By: Drop Tine | ||
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No I don't know that, if I or you did then we have evidence and would have to inform the departments or we could be charged from holding information to a crime, I hear rumors and that is it They do skirt the law I know a few people that live on the mountain and on more then one occasion had county officers drag deer out off the woods behind there houses, and that is FACT. The way I see it, and most people that I know from that area see it also. There are way to many deer up there and the only other way they are thinned out is with peoples cars I could really careless, If they opened the mountain to permit hunting who do you think would be hunting there anyway. As for poaching I personally don’t consider it in the same league as common poachers and if I saw them I wouldn’t rat them out, but I guess if I knew/know people bow hunting in towns there not allowed to discharge a weapon in “and I do” I wouldn’t rat them out either. I think laws like that are in place for nothing more then to stop guys from bow hunting are ridiculous, “Especially” in most over populated deer areas of our state that have plenty of space to hunt. That’s just the way I see it , and am not saying I’m right or asking you except my veiw but they are the way I see and I am only being truthfull. |
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 7:06 PM | ||
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| People assume they are officers, I mean they aren't if they are poacing do you think they would in uniform, and besides Spizele (spelling off) made it clear when he took over, get caught loose your job, and that is a fact | ||
| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 7:37 PM Last Edited By: Drop Tine | ||
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Camo shirts and blue pants with stripes on them, I'm not knocking them Joe but don't get all wound up about it.
I'm telling you what has happened over the years not all will give into that temptation of a monster buck staring them in the face, but some do and will. I personally don't think it is a big deal and two of the people I know that have seen it in there yards and spoke to them are retired Clifton Officers. I will take there word for it as I find it hard to believe they would make that up. Maybe things have changed recently, but up till 4 years ago it still went on. Whether you want to believe it or not, if it didn’t and does‘t happen then why would sherif have to crack down on something that never happens  Don't kid yourself Joe not all officers tow the line some have crossed it in a moment of weakness just like ordinary people have and do at times.
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 7:39 PM | ||
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you know as well as I do that the paterson and passaic county boys do a good job by themselves. u seem like you know first hand. If you ask me why would a police/sheriffs officer risk their job and pension for a deer.
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 7:50 PM Last Edited By: Drop Tine | ||
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Quote: Yeah because no Passaic County officers have never crossed the line, are you kidding me.
u seem like you know first hand. If you ask me why would a police/sheriffs officer risk their job and pension for a deer. In the passed 20 years they have been charged with everything from bringing in drugs to aiding in escapes of inmates and you think then popping off a deer is something high on a list of crimes to worry about losing there job over. I am far from a police officer bashed, as I have “A LOT” of friends that are officers and on this one I would not portend it doesn’t and hasn’t happened on the mountain. Now I'm done with this police calling out stuff as it will serve no good purpose and I feel uneasy about knocking the boys in blue as they do more then enough to serve and protect especially in tough cities like Paterson so I won't anymore. Personally I think they should open it up to bow hunting police officers, firemen and EMT's of Passaic County 
I hope you get a nice picture of that brute Tom
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 7:52 PM | ||
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Yeah because no Passaic County officers have never crossed the line, are you kidding me. In the passed 20 years they have been charged with everything from bringing in drugs to aiding in escapes of inmates and you think then popping off a deer is something high on a list of crimes to worry about losing there job over. thought we were talking about poaching.
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 8:00 PM | ||
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thought we were talking about poaching. Pages: 1 I believe he was simply using that as an example as to show that some are not angels |
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 8:01 PM | ||
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Quote: thought we were talking about poaching. Code: As for poaching I personally don’t consider it in the same league as common poachers and if I saw them I wouldn’t rat them out, but I guess if I knew/know people bow hunting in towns there not allowed to discharge a weapon in “and I do” I wouldn’t rat them out either.
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 8:10 PM | ||
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| funny, ive been living next to garret mountain for 32 years (I actually border it) and know 80% of the people that also border it. Never heard of any sheriffs officers or police officers dragging dear through peoples back yards, and definitely not through mine. The reservoir has cameras all around it that is monitored 24/7. I did hear of 2 people from ny get arrested for poaching last year but that was it. And as far as the clifton officers, they are usually being escorted out of the reservoir by sheriffs officers for illegally fishing in it. | ||
| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 8:10 PM | ||
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| Paul I have to disagree with you, it is poaching. Of course there are bad officers, and maybe it has happened, but none of us have hard evidence, and just because one is wearing pants with stripes on them doesn't mean they are officers, fireman, etc. hell anyone can goto a uniform store and purchase the pants | ||
| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 8:19 PM | ||
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because one is wearing pants with stripes on them doesn't mean they are officers most security guards (and no i dont use officers because they are guards not officers) have stripes these days and badges
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 8:22 PM | ||
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Whate/where is this place and why can't it be hunted or fished? __________________ "I do not know of a greater good that an individual can render humankind
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 8:28 PM | ||
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Whate/where is this place and why can't it be hunted or fished? A county park that is about 550 acres or better and is located mostly in west paterson but also parts of clifton and paterson. Falls into Green Acres and can not be hunted "legally" unless (as drop tine would say) your an officer
just kidding drop tine I couldnt resist
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 8:28 PM | ||
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Quote: "D" it is located in West Paterson, just outside the slum of Paterson itself, there are many nice homes in the area, and there are many people roaming the parks, some for fun/relaxation and some doing the weird nasty crap
Whate/where is this place and why can't it be hunted or fished? |
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 8:28 PM Last Edited By: Drop Tine | ||
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| genx, they were spoken to, and were indeed Passaic County officers and in reallity it wasn't a monster buck even, but a 6 pointer that was shot with a bow from several houses/yards away. and it happened a few years back and as for as I know it hasn't happened again but it did happen. | ||
| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 8:31 PM | ||
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Quote: thats rcp rifle camp park dont drive through that park alone or with another guy. bring a girl with you well unless ofcourse youre a "pillow biter"
weird nasty crap |
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 8:33 PM Last Edited By: Drop Tine | ||
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Quote: That's Joe's favorite place to park rifle camp park Quote: It's all good just kidding drop tine I couldnt resist  I'm sure there are one hell of a lot more suvillian people popping deer on the sly up there then we could even guess, I would think most officers are on the up and up and would rather tag a small buck at there hunting club then cross the line for a tainted trophy just as most of us here would rather do ourselves. For most of us it's about the hunt not the kill at least I can speak for the guys I know that bowhunt
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 8:38 PM | ||
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That's Joe's favorite place to park seems like early in the season all the big bucks are at garret mountain but come november all the big bucks head over to RCP. must be all the weird stuff that goes on is attracting the big bucks. Maybe the bucks feel that the pillow biters are trying to take over the park so the bucks (being territorial) come in to investigate
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 8:40 PM | ||
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D" it is located in West Paterson, just outside the slum of Paterson itself, there are many nice homes in the area, and there are many people roaming the parks, some for fun/relaxation and some doing the weird nasty crap Like the Tacoma that is always backed into a parking space at Rifle Camp Park __________________ Gun control is being able to hit your target
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 8:46 PM | ||
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I think years ago the sherrif's office used to have authorized culling on Garrett Mountain. Then when a new sheriff got in they stopped. That's the only way I can explain the explosion in the deer population over the last 15 or 20 years. When I lived in the area and my sons were little we used to go there all the time. There would be an occasional pile of droppings or a rub, but now it is grossly overpopulated. Just driving through RCP and looking at the trees is the most glaring example of a browse line I have ever seen. __________________ Gun control is being able to hit your target
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2007 9:04 PM | ||
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authorized culling on Garrett Mountain wow I couldnt imagine that with the old sheriff Eddy Englehart. He was just so honest
now Eddy was definitely hanging out at RCP |
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| Posted: 12 Jul 2007 12:01 PM | ||
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I've heard the same stuff droptine has about the dragging through back yards andmy buddies have seen em do it at rifle camp park as well.
As for poaching yea its poaching. If its not open to the public screw them they shouldn't be allowed to hunt there and people just turn their heads. If I can't or you can't hunt there then they shouldn't either. __________________ DB's Euro Mount Service
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| Posted: 12 Jul 2007 12:05 PM | ||
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Quote: now Eddy was definitely hanging out at RCP 
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