FID Question

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He was years ago in FL for toting Mary J around.

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I'm pretty sure he was over 18 at the time of arrest.

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1) Should he report this arrest?

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Did you know that ALL firearms are banned in NJ? One can legally possess firearms by exemptions only. Under N.J.S. 2C:39-5, possession of ALL firearms is prohibited unless one has a NJ permit to carry a handgun or a NJ Firearm Purchaser ID card for long guns. Even if one possesses these licenses, under N.J.S. 2C:39-2b one is presumed not to be licensed until proven otherwise. It is up to the law abiding gun owner to prove later in court that he/she was in lawful possession under an exemption. So, in NJ, GUN OWNERS ARE GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT!

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Did you know that under N.J.S. 13:54-1.15 any background investigation conducted by the chief of police, the Superintendent or the county prosecutor, of any applicant for a permit, FID card, or registration is not of public record and shall not be disclosed to any person not authorized by law...INCLUDING THE APPLICANT?!?! That means if you are denied a permit, you can't see the documentation without hiring an attorney to get this information!

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I forget what exactly the application asks

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It says, "Have you ever been convicted of a criminal offense, that has not been expunged or sealed?"

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If he was arrested for ANYTHING he needs to answer That question "yes"

Posted: 08 Jul 2007 10:28 AM
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OK, a buddy of mine just called me and asked me to be one of his references. I've known him since middle school, so I agreed. He then posed a question regarding his application where it asks if you've ever been arrested. He was years ago in FL for toting Mary J around. Questions: 1) Should he report this arrest? i.e. be honest on the application, or is it one of those questions where he answers YES he is automatically declined? 2) Anything I should be aware of being a reference for him? Any help would be appreciated.

Posted: 08 Jul 2007 10:35 AM
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Posted: 08 Jul 2007 10:37 AM
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Quote: He was years ago in FL for toting Mary J around. Was he an adult when he got arrested?? __________________ There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Statistics. Earth First, We Can Hunt The Rest Of The Planets Later.

Posted: 08 Jul 2007 10:38 AM
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JUST BE honest weed will NOT get you automatically declined __________________ A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing Gene Police: You!! Out Of The Pool!Your mama is so fat, when she sings, its over

Posted: 08 Jul 2007 10:41 AM
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If he gets caught lying he could get arrested for falsifying an official Document(thats what the sargeant told me when I applied for mine) So I would tell him to answer truthfully. __________________ "I do not know of a greater good that an individual can render humankind than to break the chains of political superstition." -- Tom Paine IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !!!

Posted: 08 Jul 2007 12:24 PM
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I'm pretty sure he was over 18 at the time of arrest.

Posted: 08 Jul 2007 12:27 PM
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Quote: I'm pretty sure he was over 18 at the time of arrest. Quote: 1) Should he report this arrest? I would __________________ There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Statistics. Earth First, We Can Hunt The Rest Of The Planets Later.

Posted: 08 Jul 2007 12:28 PM
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Posted: 08 Jul 2007 12:35 PM
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He better disclose the arrest, the posseession charge is only a DP offense, unless he was carrying a larger amount and charge with intent to distribute. The DP offense used to be under 50 grames. The fingerprint check to the state & feds will find his prints on file. Then he will most definitely be denied for lying on his application.

Posted: 08 Jul 2007 12:39 PM
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Posted: 08 Jul 2007 12:41 PM
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k thanks guys, I'll let him know. LOL Tom, not me that has to answer truthfully...I don't do any of that crap

Posted: 08 Jul 2007 1:02 PM
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Other states would not care about possession of a small amount of pot as a young man, but NJ does. He may need to have it expunged before he will get an NJ FID. If he was fingerprinted, he has to put the arrest on his FID application. Maybe his local police chief (who will be deciding on his FID application) would tell him upfront if he needs to the expungement, and not waste the 2 or 3 or 4 months waiting for his application to be denied. Expungment is easy here in NJ .... it all could be done through the US mail usually ..... I would think that Florida would be just as easy. Good luck to your friend.

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Interesting excerpts... http://www.njguns.com/trivia.htm Quote: Did you know that ALL firearms are banned in NJ? One can legally possess firearms by exemptions only. Under N.J.S. 2C:39-5, possession of ALL firearms is prohibited unless one has a NJ permit to carry a handgun or a NJ Firearm Purchaser ID card for long guns. Even if one possesses these licenses, under N.J.S. 2C:39-2b one is presumed not to be licensed until proven otherwise. It is up to the law abiding gun owner to prove later in court that he/she was in lawful possession under an exemption. So, in NJ, GUN OWNERS ARE GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT! Quote: Did you know that under N.J.S. 13:54-1.15 any background investigation conducted by the chief of police, the Superintendent or the county prosecutor, of any applicant for a permit, FID card, or registration is not of public record and shall not be disclosed to any person not authorized by law...INCLUDING THE APPLICANT?!?! That means if you are denied a permit, you can't see the documentation without hiring an attorney to get this information!

Posted: 08 Jul 2007 1:17 PM
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I forget what exactly the application asks. If it was arrested for a FELONY, and your friend was charged with a Misdemeanor, then he can answer no. But if he should answer yes, then definitely answer yes. Don't lie.

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Quote: I forget what exactly the application asks It says, "Have you ever been convicted of a criminal offense, that has not been expunged or sealed?" http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/info/pdf/firearms/sts-033.pdf __________________ Dog's on point... get ready!!! It is very important to generate a good attitude, a good heart, as much as possible. From this, Happiness in both the short term and the long term for both yourself and others will come. - Dalai Lama http://www.njoutdooralliance.org/

Posted: 08 Jul 2007 1:28 PM
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He told me he got disorderly persons.

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If he was arrested for ANYTHING he needs to answer That question "yes" __________________ Hunt with a Vizsla, Cause life's to short to hunt with an ugly dog! Deer-A-Thon Pro Staffer

Posted: 08 Jul 2007 1:53 PM
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Quote: It says, "Have you ever been convicted of a criminal offense, that has not been expunged or sealed?" The form also asks for DP's that have not been expunged.

Posted: 08 Jul 2007 2:09 PM
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They will find out either way !!

Posted: 08 Jul 2007 3:23 PM
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Quote: It says, "Have you ever been convicted of a criminal offense, that has not been expunged or sealed?" Quote: If he was arrested for ANYTHING he needs to answer That question "yes" Obviously, only if he was convicted. Criminal offense could be anything. But obviously, they are not talking parking tickets or speeding tickets. MJ possession would be a yes though, imo. Good luck to your friend

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Posted: 08 Jul 2007 4:17 PM
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officer in my town told me when i asked, they would probably overlook it....as long as there were no other problems since then(it happened 30 years agoe). But then i told them i had applied for a FID card in the past and it was denied. They wouldnt do it with out an expungement after that.