Monmouth County residents alert

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This is what we are up against. There is no nention that the pro-hunting people outnumbered the anti-hunting group 4 to 1 at the first meeting and 4 to 0 at the second.
We need more vocal support at mondays meeting.

County to vote on expanding deer hunt

Critics: Officials haven't shown need
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 06/9/07
BY BOB JORDAN
FREEHOLD BUREAU

IF YOU GO

The Monmouth County Board of Recreation Commissioners is scheduled to hold Monday a public hearing and final vote on revising the existing deer-hunting program.

The meeting will take place at 7 p.m. at Tatum Park's Red Hill Activity Center, Middletown.

A deer-hunting program that calls for opening several new hunting sites in Monmouth County this fall is expected to be approved by the county Park System commissioners at their meeting Monday.

The program has its critics. Residents who attended previous Park System and Board of Freeholder meetings said the deer management program report does not justify deer hunts at county parks.

Park System spokeswoman Laura Kirkpatrick said the primary concern from deer overabundance is ecological damage. For instance, Kirkpatrick said, deer consume ground cover and shrubs, affecting birds and other animals that rely on the vegetation.

"We are doing this (deer management program) for the forest health of the Monmouth County parklands," Kirkpatrick said. "Deer can have a significant negative impact on the abundance, growth, regeneration and diversity of 700 to 800 native plant and animal species."

But Freehold Township resident Doris Lin told the freeholders at their May 24 meeting in Wall that the hunt "is cruel to the deer and has not been scientifically justified."

"In the newly proposed hunt areas, the Park System has never conducted deer populations studies," Lin added.

New hunting sites are proposed for parks in Marlboro, Middletown, Millstone Township, Roosevelt and Holmdel.

The Park System's Board of Recreation Commissioners has the statutory power to enact the deer hunt without input from the freeholders, who oversee county government.

"As a freeholder board, we listened very carefully to what residents told us but have not formally communicated a position to the parks' commissioners," Freeholder Anna C. Little said last week.

At the same meeting Lin attended, Wall resident Gary Faraci told the freeholders the hunt is part of an "unneeded, unwanted program."

He said deer-population statistics from the Park System are either lacking or incomplete, or offer weak evidence that a hunt is needed.

"No count has ever been done in (an area opened for hunting last year) or two areas to be added this next hunt," Faraci said.

Kirkpatrick said the Park System has compiled data from spotlight deer surveys — a methodology not considered scientifically valid but commonly used by conservation officials — and aerial surveys that take place when there is snow cover.

Faraci at other meetings had said the deer management program report lacks statistics of car accidents involving deer, the numbers of residents who contract Lyme disease, and a cost of any ecological damage caused by deer.

Park officials said the program has a long-term goal of reducing deer populations to a maximum of 10 per square mile. The report suggests the density is now higher than that.

In addition to the new areas, the deer management plan proposes using 11 areas also used last season for hunting: Charleston Springs Golf Course, Crosswicks Creek Greenway, Howell Park Golf Course, Manasquan Reservoir Bear Swamp Tract, Shark River Park, Tatum Park, Turkey Swamp Park, Yellow Brook Tract, Clayton Park, Hartshorne Woods Park and Thompson Park.

Posted: 01 Jun 2007 12:59 PM
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All Monmouth county hunters and anyone who wants to hunt Monmouth County parks should attend this meeting. There were many anti hunting letters published in the Asbury Park Press and we need to address this issue in force. Monmouth County Federation The Board of Recreation Commissioners is scheduled to act on the proposed 2007/8 deer management program at its regular meeting on Monday, June 11 at 7pm. Members of the public will be allowed 3 minutes to comment at the beginning of the meeting. The meeting is being held at Tatum Park in the Red Hill Activity Center, 251 Red Hill Road, Middletown. Faith S. Hahn Supervising Planner, Acquisition & Design Monmouth County Park System 805 Newman Springs Road Lincroft, NJ 07738-1695 732.842.4000, Ext. 4263 Fax 732.842.3640 __________________ *WELCOME TO THE United Socialist States of America( USSA)* "The New Jersey Hunter is his own worst enemy" Howard Brandt NRA,NJSFSC,SORG,UBNJ,NJOA(Sect) New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Protecting our Hunting Fishing & Trapping Heritage

Posted: 01 Jun 2007 1:14 PM
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__________________ remember...when you point a finger at someone there is always three pointing right back at you!!!

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ttt __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan Am a non-hunter who is PRO hunting supporting what YOU like to do! NRA member NJOA supporter UXBNJ Secretary http://uxbnj.com/ UCBK, ACF member

Posted: 01 Jun 2007 9:08 PM
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Might be a good idea to post links or summarize the content of these letters so those that go are more prepared.

Posted: 01 Jun 2007 9:36 PM
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I'm sorry I did not want to steal your thread. I did not realized it was posted till BHC brought it to my attention. Please any Moderator that is on delete my post. "Momouth Park Meeting" UBNJ will have its present there also. Thank you for the post. Tony __________________ "Dont complain about your problems. There is always someone worst off then you."

Posted: 02 Jun 2007 6:59 AM
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From the Asbury Park Press 6/1/07 A sample of the agenda Most don't want park deer hunt The Monmouth County freeholders have the power to overrule the Monmouth County Parks Department and stop the deer hunt. The department has announced they want to continue the deer hunt from September 2007 through February 2008 and want to expand the hunt to more locations. The total cost of the hunting is the burden of the county taxpayers. Every survey taken clearly shows the vast majority of county residents oppose hunting in the parks. Less than 1 percent of the county population is hunting on county park property. The freeholders are elected to their positions by the registered voters. It is the freeholders' responsibility to reflect the voter majority and exert their power and stop the county park deer hunt. It is the responsibility of the registered voters to vote accordingly in the next election. Betty W. Butler __________________ *WELCOME TO THE United Socialist States of America( USSA)* "The New Jersey Hunter is his own worst enemy" Howard Brandt NRA,NJSFSC,SORG,UBNJ,NJOA(Sect) New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Protecting our Hunting Fishing & Trapping Heritage

Posted: 02 Jun 2007 7:01 AM Last Edited By: mcfvpgpn
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They were out numbered 4 to 1 at the first public meeting and 4 to 0 at the second lets give them a good showing this time, even if you are going to hunt there. __________________ *WELCOME TO THE United Socialist States of America( USSA)* "The New Jersey Hunter is his own worst enemy" Howard Brandt NRA,NJSFSC,SORG,UBNJ,NJOA(Sect) New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Protecting our Hunting Fishing & Trapping Heritage

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El Jefe No problema Jerry __________________ *WELCOME TO THE United Socialist States of America( USSA)* "The New Jersey Hunter is his own worst enemy" Howard Brandt NRA,NJSFSC,SORG,UBNJ,NJOA(Sect) New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Protecting our Hunting Fishing & Trapping Heritage

Posted: 04 Jun 2007 9:11 AM
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Please note: this is a reminder for up-coming meeting. Quote: All Monmouth county hunters and anyone who wants to hunt Monmouth County parks should attend this meeting. There were many anti hunting letters published in the Asbury Park Press and we need to address this issue in force. Monmouth County Federation The Board of Recreation Commissioners is scheduled to act on the proposed 2007/8 deer management program at its regular meeting on Monday, June 11 at 7pm. Members of the public will be allowed 3 minutes to comment at the beginning of the meeting. The meeting is being held at Tatum Park in the Red Hill Activity Center, 251 Red Hill Road, Middletown. Faith S. Hahn Supervising Planner, Acquisition & Design Monmouth County Park System 805 Newman Springs Road Lincroft, NJ 07738-1695 732.842.4000, Ext. 4263 Fax 732.842.3640 __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan Am a non-hunter who is PRO hunting supporting what YOU like to do! NRA member NJOA supporter UXBNJ Secretary http://uxbnj.com/ UCBK, ACF member

Posted: 06 Jun 2007 9:01 AM
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June 11 is fast approaching. The meeting as was posted is at 7:00 PM. Please we need as many people in attendance as we can get. The Anti's have it all together on this one. A letter campaign. They have even got the neighbor hoods and the sorrounding cities to jump in against the Park hunt. We must show them that we are together forever, and that we are going to fight them everywere and anywere. We all have three minutes to speak. It is open to the public. Write it down. Put it on paper. Make sure we all use our three minutes. We "CAN NOT" let them put us down. The Mommouth Park System needs our help and we can't let them down. Even if you speak about Coyotes, which are also making their presence in the Homdel and Marlboro area. We are all counting on all the hunters of the state. Makes no different if you are going to hunt in Mommouth county or not. Tony __________________ "Dont complain about your problems. There is always someone worst off then you."

Posted: 06 Jun 2007 10:36 PM
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Thanks Tony Jerry __________________ *WELCOME TO THE United Socialist States of America( USSA)* "The New Jersey Hunter is his own worst enemy" Howard Brandt NRA,NJSFSC,SORG,UBNJ,NJOA(Sect) New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Protecting our Hunting Fishing & Trapping Heritage

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ttt __________________ remember...when you point a finger at someone there is always three pointing right back at you!!!

Posted: 09 Jun 2007 8:15 AM
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NOTE: This meeting is THIS Mon, Jun 11th @ 7 PM. Quote: All Monmouth county hunters and anyone who wants to hunt Monmouth County parks should attend this meeting. There were many anti hunting letters published in the Asbury Park Press and we need to address this issue in force. Monmouth County Federation The Board of Recreation Commissioners is scheduled to act on the proposed 2007/8 deer management program at its regular meeting on Monday, June 11 at 7pm. Members of the public will be allowed 3 minutes to comment at the beginning of the meeting. The meeting is being held at Tatum Park in the Red Hill Activity Center, 251 Red Hill Road, Middletown. Faith S. Hahn Supervising Planner, Acquisition & Design Monmouth County Park System 805 Newman Springs Road Lincroft, NJ 07738-1695 732.842.4000, Ext. 4263 Fax 732.842.3640 __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan Am a non-hunter who is PRO hunting supporting what YOU like to do! NRA member NJOA supporter UXBNJ Secretary http://uxbnj.com/ UCBK, ACF member

Posted: 09 Jun 2007 2:28 PM
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I will be thereTony if you want I can Bring Pizza and Donuts let me know..ok

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I'd go but I'm way up in North Jersey. Remember to leave one person outside to watch your vehicles. __________________ I’m a Republican because everyone can’t be on welfare. Guns only have two enemies; rust and Democrats.

Posted: 09 Jun 2007 4:11 PM
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This is what we are up against. There is no nention that the pro-hunting people outnumbered the anti-hunting group 4 to 1 at the first meeting and 4 to 0 at the second. We need more vocal support at mondays meeting. County to vote on expanding deer hunt Critics: Officials haven't shown need Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 06/9/07 BY BOB JORDAN FREEHOLD BUREAU IF YOU GO The Monmouth County Board of Recreation Commissioners is scheduled to hold Monday a public hearing and final vote on revising the existing deer-hunting program. The meeting will take place at 7 p.m. at Tatum Park's Red Hill Activity Center, Middletown. A deer-hunting program that calls for opening several new hunting sites in Monmouth County this fall is expected to be approved by the county Park System commissioners at their meeting Monday. The program has its critics. Residents who attended previous Park System and Board of Freeholder meetings said the deer management program report does not justify deer hunts at county parks. Park System spokeswoman Laura Kirkpatrick said the primary concern from deer overabundance is ecological damage. For instance, Kirkpatrick said, deer consume ground cover and shrubs, affecting birds and other animals that rely on the vegetation. "We are doing this (deer management program) for the forest health of the Monmouth County parklands," Kirkpatrick said. "Deer can have a significant negative impact on the abundance, growth, regeneration and diversity of 700 to 800 native plant and animal species." But Freehold Township resident Doris Lin told the freeholders at their May 24 meeting in Wall that the hunt "is cruel to the deer and has not been scientifically justified." "In the newly proposed hunt areas, the Park System has never conducted deer populations studies," Lin added. New hunting sites are proposed for parks in Marlboro, Middletown, Millstone Township, Roosevelt and Holmdel. The Park System's Board of Recreation Commissioners has the statutory power to enact the deer hunt without input from the freeholders, who oversee county government. "As a freeholder board, we listened very carefully to what residents told us but have not formally communicated a position to the parks' commissioners," Freeholder Anna C. Little said last week. At the same meeting Lin attended, Wall resident Gary Faraci told the freeholders the hunt is part of an "unneeded, unwanted program." He said deer-population statistics from the Park System are either lacking or incomplete, or offer weak evidence that a hunt is needed. "No count has ever been done in (an area opened for hunting last year) or two areas to be added this next hunt," Faraci said. Kirkpatrick said the Park System has compiled data from spotlight deer surveys — a methodology not considered scientifically valid but commonly used by conservation officials — and aerial surveys that take place when there is snow cover. Faraci at other meetings had said the deer management program report lacks statistics of car accidents involving deer, the numbers of residents who contract Lyme disease, and a cost of any ecological damage caused by deer. Park officials said the program has a long-term goal of reducing deer populations to a maximum of 10 per square mile. The report suggests the density is now higher than that. In addition to the new areas, the deer management plan proposes using 11 areas also used last season for hunting: Charleston Springs Golf Course, Crosswicks Creek Greenway, Howell Park Golf Course, Manasquan Reservoir Bear Swamp Tract, Shark River Park, Tatum Park, Turkey Swamp Park, Yellow Brook Tract, Clayton Park, Hartshorne Woods Park and Thompson Park. __________________ *WELCOME TO THE United Socialist States of America( USSA)* "The New Jersey Hunter is his own worst enemy" Howard Brandt NRA,NJSFSC,SORG,UBNJ,NJOA(Sect) New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Protecting our Hunting Fishing & Trapping Heritage

Posted: 09 Jun 2007 4:14 PM
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Roly I be there but leave the Pizza and donuts for another day. You think they are going to give us flat tires?? there be a few BMW and Mercedes not leaving the parking lot that night, that is for sure. __________________ "Dont complain about your problems. There is always someone worst off then you."

Posted: 10 Jun 2007 9:28 AM Last Edited By: kmtpr
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REMINDER: MEETING IS TOMORROW Quote: This is what we are up against. There is no nention that the pro-hunting people outnumbered the anti-hunting group 4 to 1 at the first meeting and 4 to 0 at the second. We need more vocal support at mondays meeting. County to vote on expanding deer hunt Critics: Officials haven't shown need Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 06/9/07 BY BOB JORDAN FREEHOLD BUREAU IF YOU GO The Monmouth County Board of Recreation Commissioners is scheduled to hold Monday a public hearing and final vote on revising the existing deer-hunting program. The meeting will take place at 7 p.m. at Tatum Park's Red Hill Activity Center, Middletown. A deer-hunting program that calls for opening several new hunting sites in Monmouth County this fall is expected to be approved by the county Park System commissioners at their meeting Monday. The program has its critics. Residents who attended previous Park System and Board of Freeholder meetings said the deer management program report does not justify deer hunts at county parks. Park System spokeswoman Laura Kirkpatrick said the primary concern from deer overabundance is ecological damage. For instance, Kirkpatrick said, deer consume ground cover and shrubs, affecting birds and other animals that rely on the vegetation. "We are doing this (deer management program) for the forest health of the Monmouth County parklands," Kirkpatrick said. "Deer can have a significant negative impact on the abundance, growth, regeneration and diversity of 700 to 800 native plant and animal species." But Freehold Township resident Doris Lin told the freeholders at their May 24 meeting in Wall that the hunt "is cruel to the deer and has not been scientifically justified." "In the newly proposed hunt areas, the Park System has never conducted deer populations studies," Lin added. New hunting sites are proposed for parks in Marlboro, Middletown, Millstone Township, Roosevelt and Holmdel. The Park System's Board of Recreation Commissioners has the statutory power to enact the deer hunt without input from the freeholders, who oversee county government. "As a freeholder board, we listened very carefully to what residents told us but have not formally communicated a position to the parks' commissioners," Freeholder Anna C. Little said last week. At the same meeting Lin attended, Wall resident Gary Faraci told the freeholders the hunt is part of an "unneeded, unwanted program." He said deer-population statistics from the Park System are either lacking or incomplete, or offer weak evidence that a hunt is needed. "No count has ever been done in (an area opened for hunting last year) or two areas to be added this next hunt," Faraci said. Kirkpatrick said the Park System has compiled data from spotlight deer surveys — a methodology not considered scientifically valid but commonly used by conservation officials — and aerial surveys that take place when there is snow cover. Faraci at other meetings had said the deer management program report lacks statistics of car accidents involving deer, the numbers of residents who contract Lyme disease, and a cost of any ecological damage caused by deer. Park officials said the program has a long-term goal of reducing deer populations to a maximum of 10 per square mile. The report suggests the density is now higher than that. In addition to the new areas, the deer management plan proposes using 11 areas also used last season for hunting: Charleston Springs Golf Course, Crosswicks Creek Greenway, Howell Park Golf Course, Manasquan Reservoir Bear Swamp Tract, Shark River Park, Tatum Park, Turkey Swamp Park, Yellow Brook Tract, Clayton Park, Hartshorne Woods Park and Thompson Park. __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan Am a non-hunter who is PRO hunting supporting what YOU like to do! NRA member NJOA supporter UXBNJ Secretary http://uxbnj.com/ UCBK, ACF member

Posted: 11 Jun 2007 3:11 PM
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ttt __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan Am a non-hunter who is PRO hunting supporting what YOU like to do! NRA member NJOA supporter UXBNJ Secretary http://uxbnj.com/ UCBK, ACF member