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| Posted: 22 May 2007 10:10 AM | ||
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Does name/address change have to be done within a certain time frame? If so, and wasn't done, would that constitute forfeiture? Perhaps Bloodtrails would know? __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 11:31 AM | ||
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| Hey, I dont understand any of you guys asking questions about the firearms ID card . Wouldn't it make more sense just asking your local police the rules about the ID card . Asking someone on this site about this subject is not a wise thing to do. Especially if they give you the wrong answer !!!! | ||
| Posted: 22 May 2007 11:33 AM | ||
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| My original card was from 1992. I recently applied for change of address adn was told it would be four to six weeks. Get the forms, fill them out, include required fee and take back to police station. Should be all set. | ||
| Posted: 22 May 2007 11:47 AM | ||
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Wouldn't it make more sense just asking your local police the rules about the ID card Have you ever met an officer that tried to enforce a law that did not exist? or a law they did not understand? or bust your raisin sack for no good reason? or let you go for no "legal" reason? or be a human and make a mistake? If you got 100 of em here and asked them these questions you'd probably get 99 different answers. The buck stops nowhere, especially at the local PD. If there were enough people in this state willing to voice an opinion to get rid of FID cards altogether do you think anyone would listen?? |
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 11:54 AM | ||
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TJC can answer that for you.... __________________ There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Statistics.
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 11:57 AM | ||
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Wouldn't it make more sense just asking your local police the rules about the ID card Nope. More than half (and I am being nice) are either against private gun ownership and/or know zilch about Jersey gun laws/rules. __________________ |
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 12:08 PM | ||
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Was just curious before I go down there. Want to be prepared. Did talk with the detective who handles FID's and he didn't want to answer any questions. Just want my FID updated. In the future, I want to purchase another pistol or revolver and I will apply for the handgun permit at that time, as I know I would not be buying anything within 90 days from now. Thx all for your replies. Kathy __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 4:35 PM | ||
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Bump--would like to hear what Bloodtrails has to say regarding this. __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 4:48 PM | ||
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The law says 30 days. As TJC can attest it CAN be done in 30 days if all the paperwork is done properly on your part. Any time more than 30 days is most likely your PD dragging their feet.
With that said, your recourse is hiring a lawyer and that could be expensive. BTW, what town is this? __________________ "To be unarmed and therefore helpless in the face of evil is irresponsible and in fact complicit to said evil. If you knowingly and intentionally go forward incapable of stopping evil, you assist in its progress. Only a person free to choose to protect himself is truly respecting God's gift of life." Ted Nugent
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 5:40 PM Last Edited By: kmtpr | ||
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Quote: I'm in Fair Lawn. My question was about my neglect to update my name and address change. Got in 1980. Are you supposed to do address changes within a certain time or not? Am NOT getting a handgun permit right now cause I know it would expire in 90 days after issuance. Only concern updating ID to match DL.BTW, what town is this? __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 5:48 PM | ||
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Kathy----check your PM __________________ Gun control is being able to hit your target
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 7:07 PM | ||
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Quote: Nothing there. Kathy----check your PM  __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 7:14 PM | ||
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These PM's work sometimes & sometimes not...Ill try again __________________ Gun control is being able to hit your target
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 7:23 PM | ||
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Just checked--nothing there. You can get my email addr from my profile. __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 7:29 PM | ||
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230--I PM'd you my email. Did you get that? __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 7:55 PM | ||
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My question was about my neglect to update my name and address change. Got in 1980. Are you supposed to do address changes within a certain time or not? No. You don't have to change it within a certain amount of time. However, it becomes a useless piece of paper the day it doesn't match your drivers license and you will not be able purchase a firearm in NJ. __________________ "To be unarmed and therefore helpless in the face of evil is irresponsible and in fact complicit to said evil. If you knowingly and intentionally go forward incapable of stopping evil, you assist in its progress. Only a person free to choose to protect himself is truly respecting God's gift of life." Ted Nugent
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 8:15 PM | ||
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Bloodtrails, I understand it has to match DL to purchase. Had sold everything in 92--didn't think about changing info on the ID. In your opinion, do I have to start all over or can I just have the necessary changes updated. Been at the same addr for past 15 yrs. I appreciate your input. __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 8:33 PM | ||
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I'm not sure I understand the question. What do you mean by "start all over"? Basically, when changing your address on your "FID" they are going through the entire process, except maybe fingerprinting.
I would just go in, explain your situation and see what paperwork they want you to do. If your worried about not updating it sooner that shouldn't be a problem. Remember the NJ "FID" is ONLY nedded when purchasing a firearm in NJ. Not for transportation, hunting, possession or any reason other than purchasing. __________________ "To be unarmed and therefore helpless in the face of evil is irresponsible and in fact complicit to said evil. If you knowingly and intentionally go forward incapable of stopping evil, you assist in its progress. Only a person free to choose to protect himself is truly respecting God's gift of life." Ted Nugent
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 8:46 PM | ||
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I was under the impression that the NJ FID cards never expire and are good for life unless revoked. I had to get my address changed on mine a few years back and it took less than a week. The funny thing is that I called the philly firearms unit last year and asked if I moved to PA ,would I have to get the address updated on my FLA concealed carry permit and they told me that the permit is attached to ME, not my residence and to wait another 4 years until it expired to change it and that it is valid even if I move several times as long as I dont violate any of the provisions to obtain one. I wish NJ would make it that simple , yet then again , this state loves to do things the hard way. __________________ NRA LIFE MEMBER
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 8:46 PM | ||
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Quote: This is what I was concerned about. Was thinking I might have been penalized or something because I was neglient in updating ID.
If your worried about not updating it sooner that shouldn't be a problem. Quote: This I know and I do want to purchase another handgun, eventually. Thank you for explaining.Remember the NJ "FID" is ONLY nedded when purchasing a firearm in NJ. __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 8:51 PM | ||
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Quote: Steve, this is what I always have thought, also. But if address has to match driver's license, then it has to be updated.I was under the impression that the NJ FID cards never expire and are good for life unless revoked __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 9:00 PM | ||
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Unless you tried to buy a gun with it since the move with mismatched ID , then it should'nt be an issue. I know people who have a NJ FID card that havent bought a gun in decades and their card is sitting in a drawer somewhere collecting dust and as long as they hav'nt committed a crime , it should be valid to use tomorrow. Your local PD should do a quick background re-check and issue you an updated card. __________________ NRA LIFE MEMBER
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 9:07 PM | ||
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Quote: Same like me, issued 1980. Haven't bought anything since then. Sold everything in 92 and been carrying the ID in my wallet all these yrs. I'm going to go down soon and see what paperwork they give me. I am fine about the background check and whatever. Thanks for your imput, as well.I know people who have a NJ FID card that havent bought a gun in decades and their card is sitting in a drawer somewhere collecting dust and as long as they hav'nt committed a crime __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 9:12 PM | ||
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Just walk in and request an updated card with current address and don't volunteer any other information. Just keep it simple and to the point. __________________ NRA LIFE MEMBER
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 9:16 PM | ||
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would I have to get the address updated on my FLA concealed carry permit and they told me that the permit is attached to ME, not my residence I changed my address on all of my CCW permits. I was able to update the Florida one with a phone call and they didn't have to issue me a new permit. However, I wanted it to match my drivers licence just in case a cop gave me a hard time. It cost me $10 to get the new card. __________________ "To be unarmed and therefore helpless in the face of evil is irresponsible and in fact complicit to said evil. If you knowingly and intentionally go forward incapable of stopping evil, you assist in its progress. Only a person free to choose to protect himself is truly respecting God's gift of life." Ted Nugent
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 9:16 PM | ||
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Quote: Just what I was going to do. Thx.Just walk in and request an updated card with current address and don't volunteer any other information. Just keep it simple and to the point __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 9:24 PM | ||
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Quote: I didn't move yet but, I wanted to cover my bases if I do. They also recommened keeping this one instead of getting a PA one because this is valid in 28 states and PA's permit isn't nearly that many. I was surpised to here this from philly PD because with the current status of things in the city , they have been overwhelmingly anti and usually discourage people from carrying. I plan on getting a PA one anyway when I make the move.I changed my address on all of my CCW permits. I was able to update the Florida one with a phone call and they didn't have to issue me a new permit. However, I wanted it to match my drivers licence just in case a cop gave me a hard time. It cost me $10 to get the new card. __________________ NRA LIFE MEMBER
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 9:27 PM | ||
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I plan on getting a PA one anyway when I make the move. I have PA also. Didn't really need it because most of my other permits cover PA but I didn't want any problems. It was only like $10.00 __________________ "To be unarmed and therefore helpless in the face of evil is irresponsible and in fact complicit to said evil. If you knowingly and intentionally go forward incapable of stopping evil, you assist in its progress. Only a person free to choose to protect himself is truly respecting God's gift of life." Ted Nugent
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 9:35 PM | ||
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Since I cant get a NJ LTC ,I cant get a PA non-res.,yet my FLA is valid under the reciprocity agreement, go figure. The PA attorney general's firearms guy said he wishes they would just come up with a national one to end all the confusion because many officers aren't aware of reciprocity ,as did the DEL. AG's office. __________________ NRA LIFE MEMBER
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 9:49 PM | ||
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When I lived in NJ I had a PA CCW. I applied and they gave it to me. I come to find out a couple years later that they shouldn't have because you are supposed to show them a permit from your home state unless your state doesn't offer one and technically NJ does offer one. (or maybe they changed the law, who knows??) __________________ "To be unarmed and therefore helpless in the face of evil is irresponsible and in fact complicit to said evil. If you knowingly and intentionally go forward incapable of stopping evil, you assist in its progress. Only a person free to choose to protect himself is truly respecting God's gift of life." Ted Nugent
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