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| Posted: 03 May 2007 8:37 PM | ||
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Do any of your clubs plant crops for birds? My father-in-law has a 50 acre piece in the catskills with multiple fields. We are thinking of making some plots, but want some upland crops because we will be filing for a family club preserve permit. What do you guys plant or what do you suggest? They would also like it to work for deer also. __________________ It isn't the catch or the kill that makes for a great outdoor experience but enjoying all that God has created for us.
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| Posted: 03 May 2007 8:38 PM | ||
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Call 1-800-bird clubs 
Certain members feel others shouldn't help other members out |
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| Posted: 03 May 2007 8:46 PM | ||
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I would Joe, but it is too many numbers. __________________ It isn't the catch or the kill that makes for a great outdoor experience but enjoying all that God has created for us.
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| Posted: 03 May 2007 9:51 PM | ||
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We plant sorgum. It provides food & cover. __________________ WELCOME TO THE United Socialist States of America( USSA)
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| Posted: 03 May 2007 9:59 PM Last Edited By: OldCoot | ||
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Quote: I've seen sorghum used on private preserves, too.
We plant sorgum. It provides food & cover. coot |
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| Posted: 04 May 2007 4:10 AM | ||
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| Sorghum is a good bet, it grows short and thick. Also try soy bead in strips. Try to stay away from fragmities (spelling) it spreads like wild fire but is bad on the dogs pads. | ||
| Posted: 04 May 2007 6:09 AM | ||
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Quote: there is some sorgum that grows taller than corn. Stay away from that stuff, you can't walk thru it or see thru it.it grows short and thick. __________________ WELCOME TO THE United Socialist States of America( USSA)
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| Posted: 04 May 2007 6:21 AM | ||
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All good advice. Check out the website for Pheasants Forever, they have some good advice and specific instructions on what to plant and when.
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| Posted: 04 May 2007 6:37 AM | ||
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We plant sorgum. we've done this too. it really held the birds. we have a farmer that works the land. he usually plants corn. we pay him to leave some rows of corn up. when they harvested, they used to take the stalks right down to the dirt. last year we paid him to cut the stalks knee high. that worked out well. since doing this we haven't planted sorgum in a few years. sorgum is the way to go if you don't already plant other crops. if there are crops being planted, depending on what they are, pay the farmer to leave some up. __________________ Chicken Parmigiana Pro Staffer
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| Posted: 04 May 2007 9:27 PM | ||
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you can harvest the sorgum seeds and sell it also. __________________ WELCOME TO THE United Socialist States of America( USSA)
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| Posted: 05 May 2007 6:01 AM | ||
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| Posted: 11 May 2007 10:15 AM | ||
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| If you want a more perenial type plant you can't beat native grasses. The three that I like are big bluestem, indian grass, and switch grass they will give you great cover for both deer and birds. They take 2-3 years to develop into a mature stand but it is well worth it. | ||
| Posted: 11 May 2007 10:20 AM | ||
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All the commercial places I have hunted upland plant sorgum and corn and when they cut they leave them knee high like sxsshooter mentioned. Bent Creek had knee high rows and down to the ground rows cut like stripes down the fields seemed to make them fly if you could get them into the open stuff. The sorgum was in same fields with the corn. __________________ "from my cold dead hands"
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| Posted: 11 May 2007 1:53 PM | ||
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Quote: The sorgum is good cover but the birds run in it. The sorgum is good cover from above but on the ground it is like corn stalks. So there is nothing for the birds to really lay down and hold.
Sorghum is a good bet |
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| Posted: 11 May 2007 1:56 PM | ||
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yeah... sorgum, milo and oats.  We had oats for the first time this year and they held the birds really well. The only issue was that the dogs got the oats in their eyes and it almost caused a problem.__________________ Dog's on point... get ready!!!
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| Posted: 02 Aug 2007 6:31 PM | ||
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| The farmer planted sorgum on the property that I deer hunt on. Does it appeal to deer more or less than corn does? Im not to impressed with the cover aspect of it for deer since its only 2 feet high now. | ||
| Posted: 02 Aug 2007 9:12 PM | ||
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Mike isn't this how Hunts is planted out and all groomed. Hope to get by there this year.
Mike plant stuff for Grouse to.
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| Posted: 06 Aug 2007 3:48 PM | ||
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Mike plant stuff for Grouse to Grouse are all over the place up there. There is a ton of wild grape. I kicked one up this morning. I also saw 2 woodcock this weekend up there. One of the old timers up there has seen a lot of poults. I can't wait for the season to start up there. __________________ It isn't the catch or the kill that makes for a great outdoor experience but enjoying all that God has created for us.
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| Posted: 06 Aug 2007 4:35 PM | ||
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What do you guys plant or what do you suggest? Saw a Pheasants Forever episode this weekend that said breeding birds need a minimum of 14" of cover in order to safely breed. __________________ Dog's on point... get ready!!!
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| Posted: 06 Aug 2007 5:12 PM | ||
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Mike which zone S or N. N zone is 9-20-07. What area are you in?
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| Posted: 06 Aug 2007 6:39 PM | ||
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Mike which zone S or N. N zone is 9-20-07. What area are you in? I think the southern zone, but have to look further into it. It would be close. I know it is the southern zone for deer, but don't know if small game is different. Quote:
Saw a Pheasants Forever episode this weekend that said breeding birds need a minimum of 14" of cover in order to safely breed. That is easy. The fields are up to my chest at the cabin. The fields aren't mowwed until September because they don't want to disturb the fawns. __________________ It isn't the catch or the kill that makes for a great outdoor experience but enjoying all that God has created for us.
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