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| Posted: 23 Apr 2007 6:00 PM | ||
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So i put in my paperwork at my PD like 2 weeks ago, got fingerprinted, and my references have received and sent back there paperwork.
the question i need to ask is does the PD send out anything to your employer, because i work in retail, and they dont exactly check there mail, much less respond to anything, if the mail gets to a manager that is. I just read somewhere on these boards that they send something to the employer i write down on the forms, is this true? |
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| Posted: 23 Apr 2007 6:11 PM | ||
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Quote: yes they will be conducting a backround check of you
I just read somewhere on these boards that they send something to the employer i write down on the forms, is this true? |
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| Posted: 23 Apr 2007 6:20 PM | ||
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| My employer got a letter from the local police department when I applied for my FID. The letter stated that I was applying for a FID, and asked if they had any thoughts on the matter ..... any info they felt would be pertinent. | ||
| Posted: 23 Apr 2007 6:24 PM | ||
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did the letter have to be responded to, like the 2 references, or was no answer a good answer?
im just saying because what would happen if you didnt put an employer on the form? i did but i hope this doesnt screw me, becuase my managers dont know what there doing and will just throw the letter out if they get one (which they would have gotten by now and i havent heard anything about it from them...) |
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| Posted: 23 Apr 2007 6:31 PM | ||
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| give your manager the heads up on this matter | ||
| Posted: 23 Apr 2007 6:33 PM | ||
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Quote: Nothing, I left it blank.im just saying because what would happen if you didnt put an employer on the form? __________________ There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Statistics.
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| Posted: 23 Apr 2007 6:34 PM | ||
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Quote: It should be a illegal [violation to your right to privacy] to disclose what the background check is for ,they should just ask [your employer] about your character leave it at that. What if STUpid was your supervisor,how do you think that one will work out for you ?, see my point. You could get royally and unfairly screwed over this if your boss or the PR people do not agree with your personal politics!My employer got a letter from the local police department when I applied for my FID. The letter stated that I was applying for a FID, and asked if they had any thoughts on the matter ..... any info they felt would be pertinent.   __________________ NRA LIFE MEMBER
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| Posted: 23 Apr 2007 6:46 PM | ||
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| oh boy this is gonna be a problem, because its probobly been more then a week since my boss might have gotten the thing, that is even if it made it to his desk or maybe it detored to a trashcan on its way there, no ones told me that a letter came from the cops regarding me, so this is getting me worried, and heres a question, if my managers never received anything, and i know the police sent it to them, and the cops never get anything back, will that cause a serious problem in processing my FID? | ||
| Posted: 24 Apr 2007 12:59 AM Last Edited By: OldCoot | ||
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Quote: Yes, the letter my employer rec'd had to be returned to the police department. There was a section on the letter for my boss to put his remarks, and mail it back to police departmemt.
did the letter have to be responded to, like the 2 references, or was no answer a good answer? My boss simply answered ..... "James has been in our employ since XXXX. We know him to be reliable and trustworthy." If the police sent a letter to your employer, I'm sure they are going to wait for it to be returned before acting on your application. Are you sure no one at work would notice a letter from the local police department??? Quote: You have to complete the entire form, right? I have a friend that recently got his FID, and he is unemployed, he stated that on the form, and it was no problem, he got the FID in the quoted 2 months time.
im just saying because what would happen if you didnt put an employer on the form? Jim |
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| Posted: 24 Apr 2007 6:04 AM | ||
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You do not have to have a job to get a NJ FPID. Leave it blank. It's none of their business. __________________ "To be unarmed and therefore helpless in the face of evil is irresponsible and in fact complicit to said evil. If you knowingly and intentionally go forward incapable of stopping evil, you assist in its progress. Only a person free to choose to protect himself is truly respecting God's gift of life." Ted Nugent
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| Posted: 24 Apr 2007 7:00 AM | ||
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no one has noticied it, i talked to all my managers and they dont have a clue whats going on.
is it still a class 3 felony if i call the pd and tell them im being layed off (i work at circuit city and weve been doing it constantly for several weeks so it may not be far from the truth) that way they dont have to worry about the employer paperwork |
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| Posted: 24 Apr 2007 7:05 AM Last Edited By: red65 | ||
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Just give the PO a new reference tell them that your not sure your boss will get the letter. __________________ There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Statistics.
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| Posted: 24 Apr 2007 4:29 PM | ||
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You do not have to have a job to get a NJ FPID. Leave it blank. It's none of their business. I don't agree with that being good advice, sorry. You must complete the application. If it's blank, we'll call and have you come in to complete said question. There is a delay, NOT caused by the PD but by the applicant. Second, if you put you are unemployed when you really do have a job and it is learned during the background that you filled it out falsely, there is a criminal charge that applies. Fill the application out and answer the questions. It is the best way to handle it. Then you just have to hope that your town doesn't screw around unjustly. Yea, it does happen unfortunately. __________________ "A bad day of hunting is better than a good day of work"
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| Posted: 24 Apr 2007 4:52 PM | ||
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| I have been following this post and am rather concerned .... or just plain po'd frankly. I have not gone through the FID process because I have not gotten along with the local PD chief since high school so I am taken back by this process. I didn't know it was this invasive .... with my former employer (as most in my field) I would not stand a chance. Employed by a social service agency it was routine for all senior staff to be run through a counseling program yearly or bi-yearly. One year during my regular review the counselor brought up "guns" and "constitutional rights". Seems these items were reported to the screening counselor as "hot buttons" for me. So what do you think my former employer would have told the PD calling and asking about me .... guess it is a good thing I never bothered to apply. | ||
| Posted: 24 Apr 2007 5:07 PM | ||
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Quote: Does anybody know: If this poster or anyone else feels they may have a conflict of interest with the local PD or former employers over the process for applying for a FID card, can they apply directly to the NJ state police with a letter of explaination attached ?I have been following this post and am rather concerned .... or just plain po'd frankly. I have not gone through the FID process because I have not gotten along with the local PD chief since high school so I am taken back by this process. I didn't know it was this invasive .... with my former employer (as most in my field) I would not stand a chance. Employed by a social service agency it was routine for all senior staff to be run through a counseling program yearly or bi-yearly. One year during my regular review the counselor brought up "guns" and "constitutional rights". Seems these items were reported to the screening counselor as "hot buttons" for me. So what do you think my former employer would have told the PD calling and asking about me .... guess it is a good thing I never bothered to apply. __________________ NRA LIFE MEMBER
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| Posted: 24 Apr 2007 7:19 PM | ||
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Quote: I just re-read what I wrote. I was not suggesting that you lie about your employment. I was saying that you have to complete each section on the application, and that leaving the employment question blank made no sense to me.
You have to complete the entire form, right? I have a friend that recently got his FID, and he is unemployed, he stated that on the form, and it was no problem, he got the FID in the quoted 2 months time. You wondered about people who are not employed, and I just mentioned my friend who actually was unempoyed. And, of course, the local police department had no problem with that. If I were you, the last thing I would do is be dishonest. Find out the scoop at work, touch base with your police department, etc. It will be worth it at the end. Where does your pay check come from? Human Resources Department some place? Maybe use that for the address. Maybe they would answer the PD just as my boss did.... stating how long I worked there, and that there have been no problems with me. Corporate offices are not going to ignore official mail from the PD. My 2 cents Jim |
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| Posted: 24 Apr 2007 10:22 PM | ||
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Does anybody know: If this poster or anyone else feels they may have a conflict of interest with the local PD or former employers over the process for applying for a FID card, can they apply directly to the NJ state police with a letter of explaination attached ? If the town you live in has a local PD you must apply through them. If there is no local PD you then go to the Troop barracks that serves your area of residence. __________________ "A bad day of hunting is better than a good day of work"
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| Posted: 24 Apr 2007 10:34 PM | ||
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| Posted: 25 Apr 2007 1:58 PM | ||
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Sounds like just another excuse to delay the issue of the stupid card. __________________ Gun control is being able to hit your target
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| Posted: 02 May 2007 12:37 PM | ||
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| ok so i talked to my PD, they didnt send out anything to my employer, they said that the two references i gave was good enough for there investigation | ||
| Posted: 04 Feb 2008 5:12 AM | ||
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Hello,
Would any of you happen to know the answer to the following NJ firearm question: I am applying for the first time for an id card and 2 permits in Cherry Hill. My 2 references and next of kin received a form letter to sign & return. Upon completion of the entire process, if I wish to get another firearm, do I have to subject my references to the same process again? Or, do my existing permit reference letters reside at my local police dept in a folder. thanks-tom |
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| Posted: 04 Feb 2008 5:21 AM | ||
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if I wish to get another firearm, do I have to subject my references to the same process again? Or, do my existing permit reference letters reside at my local police dept in a folder. thanks-tom Obviously if you buy a long gun there will be no application process after you get your NJFID. If you are buying another handgun(s) you will have to reapply for permit(s) and your references will be contacted again. It's part of the application. All applications are kept on file for a specific amount of time by the local PD and then may be destroyed if approval is obtained through the state Archives Division. __________________ "A bad day of hunting is better than a good day of work"
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