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NJ Hunter / New Jersey Deer, Bear & Turkey Hunting / Deer Action / Deer Zone 18 / ribbons on trees
Posted:  15 Mar 2007 11:49 AM
Hi I'm Dave and new to this site and deer hunting on public land. I went to colliers mills last weekend
scouting for a couple of places to hunt next bow season. I saw a lot of ribbons tied to trees a few yards in from the road. Guys marking their spots I guess. So how do you know if they will be in that area during bow season? Also how far from them is a comfortable distance so you don't piss them off?
I've also heard that it's first come first serve in the woods is this true? Thanks
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Posted:  15 Mar 2007 11:57 AM
First come in the morning... first serve.

After the season I tear the ribbons down and place in the garbage.
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Posted:  15 Mar 2007 12:00 PM
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I saw a lot of ribbons tied to trees a few yards in from the road. Guys marking their spots I guess


I doubt thats what it is, unless there is a trail of them deeper into the woods.  Most likely it is trees the state had marked off to be cut down or somehting along those lines.

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I've also heard that it's first come first serve in the woods is this true?


Yes, but some people who have been hunting an area for a long time see it differently and think they have exclusive rights to that area.  They don't.  However, if I saw another hunter in a tree, even if it was in my area, I would back out as not to ruin his hunt.
Posted:  15 Mar 2007 12:03 PM
Oh and by the way, welcome.   How'd ya do this year?  Cental Jersey guy I guess?
Posted:  15 Mar 2007 12:06 PM
Depending on where you are finding them...ribbons are sometimes used to mark spots guys plan on coming back to.  I know in the offseason, I often flag trails in areas I find so I can walk it off and see how everything is laid out before picking the best tree for a given wind and entrance/exit.

Drag, if you go pull all my ribbons down before I pick a tree and pull them myself, I am going to have to beat you with a stick!
Posted:  15 Mar 2007 12:30 PM
I only got out once this year in NY state, didn't see anything. I bought a new bow for next year a Bear Instict.
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Posted:  15 Mar 2007 12:33 PM
Ribbons and/or tacks are pretty lame... especially on public land.  Basically you are leading others to your spot/tree.
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Posted:  15 Mar 2007 12:41 PM
I thought it would be kind of dumb to do that myself but you never know. I use a hand held GPS to mark my spots and for piece of mind not to get lost.
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Posted:  15 Mar 2007 12:56 PM   Last Edited By: spftaxidermy
I hunt in the mill and have been for years....the best advice I can give is to make circles before hunting a spot that you like. If you see a stand there than go some place else. Sure way to piss someone off is to set up right off another guys corn pile and cut them off. Although it is state property and no one person has exclusive rights to any spot its just courtesy. There is plenty of ground down there no reason setting up right next to someone else.

Ribbons and tacks don't mean squat...alot of people use them a few times and just never take them down. So just do yourself a favor and walk the area before comitting to a tree to make sure noone else is hunting there.
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Posted:  15 Mar 2007 1:16 PM
How do you like the new bear bow?
Posted:  15 Mar 2007 1:19 PM
How is the hunting there alot of deer? I've only looked around the southern part and there is alot of deer sign down there. I plan to check out the northern and central parts of the mill as well. I also was thinking about taking a look over at assumpink too, did some pheasant hunting there but never deer. Hoping to get my first deer with a bow this year.
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Posted:  15 Mar 2007 1:22 PM
The bow is great smooth and not loud like the old whitetail 2 I shot about 12years ago.
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Posted:  15 Mar 2007 1:25 PM
welcome and good luck with the new Bow
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Posted:  15 Mar 2007 4:00 PM
Welcome to the addiction Dave!
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Posted:  15 Mar 2007 4:05 PM
Welcome to the site
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Posted:  15 Mar 2007 4:10 PM
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Ribbons and/or tacks are pretty lame... especially on public land.  Basically you are leading others to your spot/tree.


Ever have a stand stolen? Sucks... I know, but maybe your ribbons or tacks led the theif right to the stand. I'd get a GPS system before I started tying ribbons or using tacks.
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Posted:  15 Mar 2007 4:16 PM
No I never had a stand stolen before. I'm planning on buying a climber, probably a summit.
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Posted:  15 Mar 2007 4:19 PM   Last Edited By: Drop Tine
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No I never had a stand stolen before
Man you must hunt some nice places I had 3 stold all over $200. each in a 3 year spand, and they even got one of my new trailcams this past season
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Posted:  15 Mar 2007 4:34 PM   Last Edited By: BowhunterNJ
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Ribbons and/or tacks are pretty lame... especially on public land.  Basically you are leading others to your spot/tree.


I agree ribbons indefinitely hanging around the woods are lame, I use them in the offseason as I mentioned...they are gone shortly afterwards.

Tacks on the other hand...are quite useful...unless you are...

1) Afraid of the dark and only go in/out during daylight
2) Using infrared goggles to get to/from your stand
3) Are hunting 10 yards off the main road, therefore not requiring tacks to get to a certain spot
4) Hunt random trees by walking random trails until you hit a tree you like.
5) Know the woods and trails well enough to get in and out of your spot without a directional aid.

#5 is generally the case for many of my spots, but I still find tacks to be quite useful, especially when traveling deep in the woods to new stand locations.

Nothing in NJ, outside of Wharton maybe, is big enough to hide your stand locations from anyone that is willing to find them...tacks or not.  Ribbons obviously make it far easier.

And sometimes, it may not be a bad idea to use visual markers to let guys know you are in an area...although most won't care, I respect when I find signs of a guy hunting an area and back out (whether I am there first in the morning or not).  Of course, I don't wait until that morning to scout an area I plan on hunting and I'm only hunting areas I expect no one else to be at...so rarely, if ever, do I "run into" anyone that is there before I am.
Posted:  15 Mar 2007 4:36 PM
the state will some times cut fire trails. they start by marking the trails with marker tape. they do this during the spring when they do the burn offs.
Posted:  15 Mar 2007 4:39 PM
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the state will some times cut fire trails. they start by marking the trails with marker tape. they do this during the spring when they do the burn offs.


ROFL, meanwhile Drag is out there ripping them down.
Posted:  15 Mar 2007 4:41 PM
welcome to the site


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Posted:  15 Mar 2007 5:10 PM
Sometimes people are marking a trail (usually orange).  Sometimes it is the state designating trees to be cut down (usually flo pink).  Sometimes it is people who had stands there marking out 10 yds, 20 yds, for sighting (any color).  You never know.  Hikers and bikers probably also put them out to mark small trail turn offs.
Posted:  15 Mar 2007 5:23 PM   Last Edited By: 230grain hollowpoint
I think anyone that needs surveyor's tape(ribbons)to navagate shouldn't be in the woods in the first place.

I can see one of those "bright eye" reflective tacks on a specific tree you plan to climb. Other than that learn to navagate!

(Just being a curmudgeon I don't really care that much)
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Posted:  16 Mar 2007 6:46 AM
Thanks everyone for your input and happy hunting.
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Posted:  21 May 2007 4:15 PM
I do have to defend some orange ribbon users.  I had never used orange ribbon until I started hunting Greenwood forest zone 21.  After getting lost so many times walking in and out I had to resort to ribbon.  I have since become used to the flat terrain and only get lost once a week for about a hour or so.
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Posted:  21 May 2007 4:22 PM
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I think anyone that needs surveyor's tape(ribbons)to navagate shouldn't be in the woods in the first place.

Thats right! Especially when you can see your truck from your stand.
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Posted:  21 May 2007 5:26 PM
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Thats right! Especially when you can see your truck from your stand.


Keep in mind, these guys hunt wide open woods...they can probably see their trucks from about 1/2 mile on top of a ridge
Posted:  21 May 2007 5:32 PM
Ive seen some tape out in zone 21..easy to get lost there if you dont know the area well. I would put a piece(very small) to mark the edge of a field where my stand went straight in..makes things easier when i get out there.
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Posted:  21 May 2007 5:37 PM
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Keep in mind, these guys hunt wide open woods...they can probably see their trucks from about 1/2 mile on top of a ridge



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