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| Posted: 21 May 2007 6:51 PM | ||
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I remember a couple years ago i was hunting whiting wma. it was the first time there and found a decent spot so i put up bright eyes to come back in the morning . when i started heading into the woods and turned on the light there were so many eyes that i coundnt find my way to the spot spot till daylight __________________ If you ever felt unwanted try missing two truck payments
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 6:59 PM | ||
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While coon hunting at night or turkey hunting I make it a point to remove ribbons & pull glow tacks. If you boys can't find you way in the woods stay in the parking lot.
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 7:15 PM | ||
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| njplotts...are you saying you can navigate through unfamiliar sinkhole infested cedar swamps in pitch dark on a new moon to the exact tree you want to set up in 2 hours before daybreak without a single defined trail, tack, or ribbon? | ||
| Posted: 21 May 2007 7:57 PM | ||
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I now take 350 yards of power pro fishing line and tie one end to my truck and the other to my belt i never get lost __________________ If you ever felt unwanted try missing two truck payments
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 8:20 PM | ||
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Quote: Yup there is a bunch of guys on hear that have nite-vision built in their eyes..are you saying you can navigate through unfamiliar sinkhole infested cedar swamps in pitch dark on a new moon to the exact tree you want to set up in 2 hours before daybreak without a single defined trail, tack, or ribbon?  __________________ There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Statistics.
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 8:21 PM | ||
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njplotts...are you saying you can navigate through unfamiliar sinkhole infested cedar swamps in pitch dark on a new moon to the exact tree you want to set up in 2 hours before daybreak without a single defined trail, tack, or ribbon? If I scout the place, I'll bring you to the exact spot. From what I seen all you deer hunter carry GPS anyway. __________________ |
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 8:51 PM | ||
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One night I cut the hounds in the woods around 10:30PM.. They hit a track I followed into the wood down the hill toward the swamp. I hear " HELP HELP" I head in that direction. Find a bowhunter with all his gear, he's LOST. He asks "are you part of the SEARCH PARTY??" Nope I'm coon hunting. He got lost trying to follow his glow tacks. This was in Black River. We were less then 200 yds from the parking lot. for you guys who don't know Black river imgine a rectangle roads runs 3 sides & a swamp on the 4 th side. The entire area is on a slope down hill to the swamp.This guy was walking trying to find his way out for over 6 hrs.. He was parked on top of the slope. __________________ |
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 9:15 PM Last Edited By: BowhunterNJ | ||
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njplotts, you bean in the Mill before? Ever fall into one of those sinkholes? 
You *might* think about putting a tack or two through that mine field of sinkholes after your first time going in up to your waist when the ice happens to give way on a nice cold November morning...even if you know the way in 
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 9:25 PM | ||
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I coon hunted the Mill.
I better in the woods & swamps in the dark than day. LOL __________________ |
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 9:34 PM | ||
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| Man you need to do some more coon hunting there...ton of them in those woods. | ||
| Posted: 21 May 2007 9:40 PM | ||
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Hide prices fell & gas prices climbed I stopped driving all over hunting. I stopped competition hunting then to. I was driving to Ohio or Ind. to hunt one night back then. __________________ |
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 9:41 PM | ||
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Wow...yeah I was reading the coon prices in a mag just earlier tonight. Definitely not covering gas costs.
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 10:44 PM | ||
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sometimes I pick out a tree for the portable that is perfect setup, but in the dark in the thick swamp I hunt in. They all look the same so I will put a tack in it to make my morning setup quicker and quieter. I know this swamp like the back of my hand but it is thick and I want to make sure I am in exact spot that I cleared shooting lanes in. I have had aholes take my tacks out. I don't leave a trail just mark entrance to swamp that I want to use and then 1 on tree. talk about pissed off in the morning when my tack is missing. Ribbons all over is garbage and looks like crap. But if someone needs to get somewhere in the dark and wants to do it quietly, and quickly, who the hell are you guys to go around removing the stuff. So everyone hunting in NJ should go buy a gps?? That is ridiculous and another reason to get some private land. Guys using ribbons should try to use a more eye friendly method.. Guys pulling tacks in the middle of the season are a holes! __________________ "from my cold dead hands"
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 10:46 PM | ||
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Guys pulling tacks in the middle of the season are a holes!  __________________ Vice President
Woodruff Rod and Gun Club "If i see BONE, Its goin HOME" - CAT FIRE IT UP Woke up at 5am, put on my camouflage Wiped off my .243 and fired up my Dodge Headed out to my ol' deerstand back in the pines Gonna get me a ten point buck with 11 inch tines, yeah FREE RUGGIE |
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 11:12 PM | ||
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pull every ribbon off I see and put in my pocket.... If I or anyone else spend time scouting and planning for their hunting trip, what gives you guys the right to pull our markers out, are you gonna be responsible if that person gets lost, falls in a sinkhole, or even worse say it was a father taking his son hunting and now you just ruined their wholle experience and you might have even endangered their lives, why must people meddle in other peoples lives and think they are better 
And Rich before you get your panties in an uproar this was directed to everyone who does it not just you __________________  Git-R-Done
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 11:18 PM | ||
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If I or anyone else spend time scouting and planning for their hunting trip, what gives you guys the right to pull our markers out, are you gonna be responsible if that person gets lost, falls in a sinkhole, or even worse say it was a father taking his son hunting and now you just ruined their wholle experience and you might have even endangered their lives, why must people meddle in other peoples lives and think they are better couldnt of said it better Louie __________________ Vice President
Woodruff Rod and Gun Club "If i see BONE, Its goin HOME" - CAT FIRE IT UP Woke up at 5am, put on my camouflage Wiped off my .243 and fired up my Dodge Headed out to my ol' deerstand back in the pines Gonna get me a ten point buck with 11 inch tines, yeah FREE RUGGIE |
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| Posted: 21 May 2007 11:42 PM | ||
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Quote: why must people meddle in other peoples lives and think they are better
Hunt and let hunt... __________________ "from my cold dead hands"
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 5:33 AM | ||
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Someone that needs ribbons on trees to navagate doesn't belong in the woods __________________ Gun control is being able to hit your target
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 7:24 AM | ||
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What gives people the right to litter up the woods with ribbons & tacks? It's LITTER you could be given a ticket! How about I use soda cans & coffee cups to find my way in & out of the woods? same idea I need to find my way. funny thing is EVERYONE sez " Oh I take them down" Right, why are they EVEYWHERE ON PUBLIC LAND if you all clean them up when you are done hunting?
Respect the land & stop your litter. leave the land as you found it. Without marking it up with litter (ribbons) __________________ |
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 9:00 AM | ||
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Someone that needs ribbons on trees to navagate doesn't belong in the woods I'm not trying to start trouble but....that is a bold statement. I'm not bragging that I'm some great hunter and woodsman because I'm not. Hunt in zone 21 away from the road where it is thick and nasty. There are no hills to walk up or down no land marks to see, and you can only walk in thin deer runs to get in or out. Come and follow me to some of my stands. I still use a little once and a while. I admit it. Once I learn the route I take them down. __________________ My son says "Dad! You hunt deer for deer sausage, right?" I say yea sure!....He then says "When I grow up I'm gonna hunt werewolves, so I can have werewolf sausage for breakfast."
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 9:04 AM Last Edited By: red65 | ||
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Quote: Someone that needs ribbons on trees to navagate doesn't belong in the woods
In the dark, if you want to go directly to you stand you need them... __________________ There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Statistics.
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 9:46 AM | ||
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I invite anyone to take a short 3/4 mile walk through the thickest crap I hunt in ONCE in daylight to the tree you'll hunt in the morning and then we'll see if you can make it back to that tree in total darkness without ribbons, tacks or any other means of trail marking...including cutting any brush or limbs.
I think what some of you are ignoring is what red just mentioned...down here there are no real definitive terrain features to use for navigation. Much of the woods down here look virtually the same in daylight, nevermind in pure darkness. There's a maze of small, intertwined and tight trails, and if you take the wrong one (assuming you are using one of them to get to your stand, since they are pretty much the only way to get through the brush). Like I said, if you can navigate relatively deep (say more than 1/4 mile...off the beaten path a little) with a simple headlamp (i.e. not some NASA powered strobe light brighter than the sun that lights up half the woods) into man-made trailess woods in complete darkness (I mean DARK like you can't see your hand in front of your face, i.e. a new moon 2 hours before sunrise) without a GPS, or any trail marking to the exact tree you want to hunt (not the "general area, this tree will do")...then you certainly are a far better woodsman than I am. I can navigate areas and trails to stands I've hunted year after year without the aid of light 95% of the time, but any *new* first time spot where I've only been "to" it once or twice in daylight and never in darkness...well, I'd rather use a zillion glow tacks than wander in circles looking for my treestand in the dark...been there, done that (GPS only approach with no tacks...that was fun when the GPS couldn't grab sats due to canopy or location). |
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 10:05 AM Last Edited By: njplotts | ||
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I'll take you up on that. 1/4 mile you'll still hear cars & the planes there mostly fly to & from Phila.. Then will you stop littering with ribbons?
Can't be any harder than the the swamps downs south, Where the motto is "if it's dry don't step on it IT"S A GATOR. Ya know up until the maybe the early 80's EVERYONE hunted without ribbon trails. Yes, I was hunting the Mill before then with Frankie H, Fred M & the rest of the local piney's. Since we are airing out here. Here's another one I HATE! The guys who comes out here & carve their name in the trees. Unless you own the land PLEASE STOP! Nobody give a crap YOU WERE IN 06 I ONLY HOPE YOU DON'T COME BACK!! __________________ |
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 10:17 AM Last Edited By: BowhunterNJ | ||
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Actually I only use ribbons in the spring to mark deer trails in the core area I plan on hunting for determining my stand locations and then I take them down. I use tacks to get in and out of spots.
I understand the argument for obnoxious ribbon trails, and I honestly never navigate with ribbons because outside of the reflective ones...you can't see them in the dark anyway...unless you catch them fluttering in the wind...so you probably need them every 10-20 yards just to find your way. Pretty ineffective IMO. Planes won't help you much there with the base nearby...planes are flying in all kinds of directions. Vehicle wise...you might hear some in the distance or on the dirt roads from other hunters. Haha, I have some nasty spots in mind to take you to...it would be fun. No compass either?
Only people I've seen carve their names in trees are usually kids. Of course I did find a carving of "BHC + Bubba" in a big old oak tree with an old blanket and empty wine bottles laying around...wonder what happened there? 
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 10:33 AM | ||
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No compass either? Now you are changing the rules LOL Even the planes coming out of the Base take off & land from oppisite directions, Watch you pick up the pattern.I know there are nasty places back there. You want to come north & try swamp of our beaver spots? LOL __________________ |
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 3:01 PM | ||
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Someone that needs ribbons on trees to navagate doesn't belong in the woods I'm not trying to start trouble but....that is a bold statement. I'm not bragging that I'm some great hunter and woodsman because I'm not. Hunt in zone 21 away from the road where it is thick and nasty. There are no hills to walk up or down no land marks to see, and you can only walk in thin deer runs to get in or out. Come and follow me to some of my stands. I still use a little once and a while. I admit it. Once I learn the route I take them down Quote:
In the dark, if you want to go directly to you stand you need them... Spend some money and get a GPS reciever then. __________________ Gun control is being able to hit your target
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 3:09 PM | ||
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Quote: i have two, they don't well where I hunt..Spend some money and get a GPS reciever then. __________________ There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Statistics.
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 4:21 PM | ||
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sounds like operator error. I use one & it's works in every state I hunt. The only time I ever had a problem was in a swamp under the canopy in Ms.. moved 50" & picked up a signal. __________________ |
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 5:43 PM | ||
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The only GPS problem I have is I need my glasses to see it. Once last fall I set a GO TO for the tree I wanted to hunt. Actually I set it to a tree I hunted a year before by mistake. Spent a lot of time walking around aimlessly __________________ Gun control is being able to hit your target
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| Posted: 22 May 2007 6:36 PM | ||
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GPS is great but, I have a hard time with them getting the correct heading. I found that you have to be moving in a straight line for a ways before it dials in. I have a etrex summit (I know it's dated now)and it worked great. I think that the newer ones have a accurate compass reading standing still and or moving. I've turned it on when lost and the damn thing have me walk 50 + yards and then change the heading the other way. __________________ My son says "Dad! You hunt deer for deer sausage, right?" I say yea sure!....He then says "When I grow up I'm gonna hunt werewolves, so I can have werewolf sausage for breakfast."
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