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| Posted: 17 Feb 2007 10:01 AM | ||
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Is's amazing what most of us have to go through for a lousey ,stinking day in the woods in this state. You bust your balls year round at work for a couple of days off, your constantantly battling the crooked ass game commission and no-good politicians resrticting the laws or creating new ever-increasing fees, you got " animal rights" assh*les protesting you or intentionally disrupting your hunt" , the wife or girlfriend might be on your case about some stupid crap and when you finally get a few hours to yourself to hunt,and then you gotta deal with some j*erk*ff stealing your stuff or riding an ATV through your setup!!! That's just f'd-up ! All I wanna do is hunt in peace for a few hours a year and be left alone ! It aint even about the actually getting the deer,I just wanna get an enjoyable ,quality,experience for my time ,effort and money,THAT'S ALL SO, IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR ???__________________ NRA LIFE MEMBER
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| Posted: 18 Feb 2007 2:38 PM | ||
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im not saying stealing is right but some guys think they hang a stand and they own the woods i dont touch anyones stand but i will set up my climber if the guys not in it first come first serve and as for grammer you dont have look at if you dont like it __________________ ubnj member
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| Posted: 18 Feb 2007 4:52 PM | ||
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| Lighten up FRANCIS. Why would you set up by another stand? Would you want that done to you? | ||
| Posted: 18 Feb 2007 5:12 PM | ||
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Why would you set up by another stand? Would you want that done to you? Thats the chance you take on public ground. 1st come, 1st served. If someone beats me to a spot, shame on me. I'll head to plan B or C. If they dont work out, then just go home. Its not my day. __________________ "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." - John Quincy Adams
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| Posted: 18 Feb 2007 6:16 PM | ||
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Dude this was about stolen tree stands, not about setting up on someone elses tree. Besides I pay to hunt private land and this stand was on that land. I just hope that Karma comes back on the jack a$$. I know I will never see that stand or feeder again..........
Set up on my tree that I have scouted and put the time into and don't be surprised if you see a bottle of bleach in the woods! Oops did I say that out loud? __________________ All you need in life is a great ego and a fantastic sex drive. Brains don't mean shit!
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| Posted: 18 Feb 2007 7:19 PM Last Edited By: bayonne | ||
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if its public land its ilegal to leave a stand i should just call a co then the guy may not come that day so then i shoulnt hunt their and ive been to the same area couple weeks in a row and he was never their he doesnt own it because he hung his stand leaveing your stand is just being lazy nothing else i walk some times 1/2 mile with my climber and im not young and as for stealing tree stands your nuts to leave one out on public land i know of lots of guys its happend to all over the state and south jersey is actuly worse he lives in ocean gate and had four stolen from double trouble state park he doesnt leave any stands any more __________________ ubnj member
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| Posted: 18 Feb 2007 8:03 PM | ||
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From what a co told me a long time ago. "It is perfectly legal to climb into any stand thats on public property. Even though you own the stand it becomes fair game FOR ANYONE TO USE when left on public land.
This doesn't mean someone can take it away but when left out there thats the chances you take. With that being said this situation is different because it's private land. On Tred Bartas Elk hunting show. His guide summed it up by saying " you can't just go climb in a strangers car, and you can't go walk into someones house, So why would you think you could walk onto their property!" |
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| Posted: 19 Feb 2007 7:46 AM | ||
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Quote: f its public land its ilegal to leave a stand i should just call a co then the guy may not come that day so then i shoulnt hunt their and ive been to the same area couple weeks in a row and he was never their he doesnt own it because he hung his stand leaveing your stand is just being lazy nothing else i walk some times 1/2 mile with my climber and im not young and as for stealing tree stands your nuts to leave one out on public land i know of lots of guys its happend to all over the state and south jersey is actuly worse he lives in ocean gate and had four stolen from double trouble state park he doesnt leave any stands any more
Dude, you need an english class. Sorry but my head hurts from trying to read that. Can you translate what you are trying to say? I was on PRIVATE LAND.... __________________ All you need in life is a great ego and a fantastic sex drive. Brains don't mean shit!
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| Posted: 19 Feb 2007 5:21 PM | ||
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if you dont leave your stand it cant be stolen that simple if you leave anthing any place expect it to walk you sound like your suprised it happend wake up and smell the coffe private or not your the one inviteing them to take it as a kid you walk away from your bike what happens this is the way it is out their private dont mean a thing __________________ ubnj member
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| Posted: 19 Feb 2007 7:57 PM | ||
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if its public land its ilegal to leave a stand i should just call a co No where does it say that you can't leave A stand up on State WMA's. there are some Fed. property that you can't but on state property its is legal. |
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| Posted: 21 Feb 2007 3:56 PM | ||
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if you dont leave your stand it cant be stolen that simple if you leave anthing any place expect it to walk you sound like your suprised it happend wake up and smell the coffe private or not your the one inviteing them to take it as a kid you walk away from your bike what happens this is the way it is out their private dont mean a thing Quote:
Surprised?! I am pi$$ed! From your comments it seems as though you feel if it is left in the woods then you can come and take it. So if you find a car in the woods and the keys are say on the back tire, do you drive away with it? You may think this way in Bayonne but in the south we usually don't think like that. So if it is locked then it is ok? I locked my bike when I was a kid in a public place, but not on my porch. I guess I was lucky there too. Well I guess I should consider it lucky I got to use it for the short time I did, on the private land that I lease. Thanks for the explanation on how things are out in the woods Bayonne. Even if I did have to read it six times to understand it. __________________ All you need in life is a great ego and a fantastic sex drive. Brains don't mean shit!
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| Posted: 21 Feb 2007 5:32 PM | ||
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i would never touch anyones stand all i hear about from this site and hunters i talk to tell the same story i feel for you guys but its a cruel world one guy i know has had a few stolen but yet he buys another and does the same thing by useing a climber i have nothing to worry about __________________ ubnj member
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| Posted: 21 Feb 2007 5:37 PM | ||
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were does it say you can leave a stand in the woods your asumeing its legal if it states no perminent stands on state land thats the way i would understand it its the same thing if you leave it in the woods its not portable if a co realy wants to bust chops he can wright you a ticket by the way its worded __________________ ubnj member
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| Posted: 21 Feb 2007 5:47 PM | ||
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| Thats one to interpert the law. I have taken 4 ppl through the hunter Ed. class in the last 6 years. They are refering PERMANATE STAND to stands that are fasten to the tree with screws or any other device that does not allow for removal of stand with out damage. Over the last couple of years they have allowed Screw in steps for safty but say they should be removed yearly. | ||
| Posted: 21 Feb 2007 7:11 PM Last Edited By: bayonne | ||
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some of the state parks i go to the rangers make their own rules its been told by them no stands are to be left in the woods if they see any they will be disposed of and if caught ticketed __________________ ubnj member
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| Posted: 21 Feb 2007 7:36 PM | ||
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I thought if it is private property you could put up a stand and leave it there..........silly me. __________________ All you need in life is a great ego and a fantastic sex drive. Brains don't mean shit!
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| Posted: 25 Feb 2007 11:09 AM | ||
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I found a good clue today to who stole my treestand. I was out shed hunting and filling the feeder, I decided to go for a little walk and look for a hat I lost back in december. Well the hat must be with the treestand, but I found one of the straps to the treestand on the adjioning property. This was out in the open twenty yards off the trail that separated the two properties plain as day. Well I guess I now know what kind of neighbors hunt next to me.
So for those of you down in the White Oak WMA be careful, if they steal who knows what else they are capable of. By the way according to the trail cam, no sheds yet.... __________________ All you need in life is a great ego and a fantastic sex drive. Brains don't mean shit!
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| Posted: 25 Feb 2007 3:41 PM | ||
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Quote: So for those of you down in the White Oak WMA be careful, if they steal who knows what else they are capable of.
What I meant was in the area of WHITE oak WMA. __________________ All you need in life is a great ego and a fantastic sex drive. Brains don't mean shit!
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| Posted: 25 Feb 2007 4:05 PM | ||
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I had 2 taken from a private farm in zone 19 and a ground blind trashed on the same farm. These guys need a beating when caught! __________________ PSE X Force Baby!
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| Posted: 15 Feb 2008 9:30 AM | ||
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Let me join you guys, 2 stands and a feeder stolen zone 8 this year.  . I will keep checking back at the hunting area and hope the dumb A$$ puts them back up. If I catch the person he is done. The Coyote's will be eating well. Ah now I feel better. These people are losers, scumbags. If you ever see someone steeling or damaging our fellow hunters property in the woods take care of them.
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| Posted: 15 Feb 2008 9:54 AM | ||
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If U ever find the scumbag I would like to get in on
setting him up as yote food no matter how much time goes by every time I hear about this S^!T I get p!$$ed all over again!__________________ NJHUNTER ED INSTRUCTOR
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| Posted: 15 Feb 2008 10:00 AM | ||
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Having tree stands stolen seems to be very common in New Jersey. I had a new, locked one stolen on private land the beginning of this past season. This was my first time hunting in NJ. I have hunted in New York (mostly), Pennsylvania and Maine and never before was the theft of a hunter’s property a consideration. I have been hunting NY public lands for many years and never got a stand stolen... ....Until this year I lost my stand to some scumbag thief.
That was a semi-custom stand modified from an old Warren and sweat climber. It weighed only 13 lbs, including shooting rail! |
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| Posted: 15 Feb 2008 11:32 AM | ||
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| IDK....my parents taught me not to touch anything that wasn't mine! I guess those basic values don't apply anymore? | ||
| Posted: 15 Feb 2008 1:04 PM | ||
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this reminds me - i have to go in and retrieve my stand
i hope it's still there lol __________________ Please don't shoot my avatar.
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| Posted: 15 Feb 2008 1:07 PM | ||
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leaveing your stand is just being lazy nothing else i walk some times 1/2 mile with my climber and im not young and as for stealing tree stands your nuts to leave one out on public land I don't agree with this at all, I would imagine most guys who leave them up have worked hard to put them up and if they are anything like me don't want to be sweating their ass off trying to put up a stand, steps, etc. quietly in the dark. In my opinion, lazy is: Quote:
im not saying stealing is right but some guys think they hang a stand and they own the woods i dont touch anyones stand but i will set up my climber if the guys not in it first come first serve Setting up next to someone else is lazy and an a-hole move, why would you want the possibility of having your hunt ruined with a confrontation? If your answer is first come first serve, that is a bs response, obviously you weren't first and someone else has already gone to the work of hunting that area, so move on. The guy who figures out how to inexpensively track stands (like the ones used in pets) is going to be a rich man, and also well liked by SOME hunters!!! |
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| Posted: 15 Feb 2008 1:15 PM | ||
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bayonne, i dont understand how you run into that many guys in assumpink. That place is huge. I can see running into the occasional hunter or 2 but the way your talking, its like a guy in every other tree. Ive deer hunted assumpink before and never ran into another guy in the woods. __________________ Vice President
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| Posted: 15 Feb 2008 1:33 PM | ||
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This all comes down to one word ETHICS!!!!
Can you set up near someone else yes, is it ethical NO!! Can you hunt out of another hunters stand yes, is it ethical NO!!! In my opinion the hunter ed classes do not teach enough ethics. Guys who want to reap the fruits of another hunters efforts on any land are lazy unethical slobs. Do your own scouting find your own spot and hunt. While you cannot "claim" a spot on public land why would anyone want to foster bad feelings with a brother hunter by moving in on someone elses work. Before I put a stand up I do 100yd perimeter sweep to look for other stands. If I fine one I move on to another area. If we all used a little consideration for fellow hunters and though more about how ethical our actions are. NJ would be a much better state to hunt in. There is alot of land to have your own spot in if you just work and little and are willing to walk a little more. Lastly we owe it to our brother hutners to turn in anyone we know that is stealing from another hunter. I have someone who knows who stole my stuff from Turkey Swamp park this year, but he will not come foward and tell the rangers or wardens who it is. In fact he knows that this one person is responsible for all teh treestand thefts in Turkey swamp park and wma in the past few years. Lets just say the person lives on property bordering the park and wma and is a slob hunter to boot. Guys do teh right thing and turn scumbags in!!! __________________ PSE X Force Baby!
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| Posted: 15 Feb 2008 3:04 PM | ||
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Funny u post this, I was taking out my 3 stands and rapid rails today and to my suprise they were all gone!!makes me mad,i work so hard for my stuff and someone has the nerve to take them.. They got stolen from bennett and ingersoll-rand tracts in montgomery twp.Any info please pm me.
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| Posted: 15 Feb 2008 3:59 PM Last Edited By: telefante | ||
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Some of these theifs are adult jerks that hunt. Something for nothing.
A few are probably anti's thinking that they are saving bambi's mom. Jackass criminal fanatics. Many or most, I believe, are kids that wander the woods and bring the stands home and keep them in their yards, sheds or garages. Where are their parents.  These clueless and permissive parents are raising sh** birds. If your kid started coming home with loot wouldn't you do something?
If you do catch one of these guys using an IR camera and a ghetto lock on for bait - after you get him busted you should take out a full page ad in the local paper with the picture on half the page and his name and description of what he did on the other half. If it is a minor black out the face and note that the stand was found in the parents garage with ten others. If anyone gets to do this I will chip in for the ad. __________________  Helping deer go up the food chain since 1979. 
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| Posted: 15 Feb 2008 4:44 PM | ||
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| If you want to catch them at there home try this, get a good stand put a lo-jack inside of it so can`t be seen,when the creep takes it call warden he calls law they go right to the house or tree,AND IT WORKS!!! you may be blowen away at how many stands are found at one house.start putting the word out mabie put alittle fear in the crooks. | ||
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