purchasing a pistol bb gun in NJ

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Posted: 01 Feb 2007 1:27 PM
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just a drivers license.... in case you get pulled over with the funny plates on your car.. __________________ ´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ ><((((((º>

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 1:31 PM
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Quote: just a drivers license.... in case you get pulled over with the funny plates on your car.. Yup. __________________ "To be unarmed and therefore helpless in the face of evil is irresponsible and in fact complicit to said evil. If you knowingly and intentionally go forward incapable of stopping evil, you assist in its progress. Only a person free to choose to protect himself is truly respecting God's gift of life." Ted Nugent

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 2:28 PM
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When entering the state of new jersey you must report to the nearest police station of having possesion of firearms from another state. Ignorance of the law does not make things right!!!

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 2:47 PM
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Quote: When entering the state of new jersey you must report to the nearest police station of having possesion of firearms from another state. Ignorance of the law does not make things right!!! What are you talking about? Are you for real?? Here, I can make one up too: When entering the state of new jersey you must give your guns to me... plus bring me a sandwhich.. __________________ "To be unarmed and therefore helpless in the face of evil is irresponsible and in fact complicit to said evil. If you knowingly and intentionally go forward incapable of stopping evil, you assist in its progress. Only a person free to choose to protect himself is truly respecting God's gift of life." Ted Nugent

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 3:46 PM
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Bucktail - Why would you need a BB gun that looks like a handgun anyway? __________________ Dog's on point... get ready!!! It is very important to generate a good attitude, a good heart, as much as possible. From this, Happiness in both the short term and the long term for both yourself and others will come. - Dalai Lama http://www.njoutdooralliance.org/

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 3:49 PM
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Quote: When entering the state of new jersey you must report to the nearest police station of having possesion of firearms from another state. Ignorance of the law does not make things right!!! dude...your nuts __________________ Vice President Woodruff Rod and Gun Club "If i see BONE, Its goin HOME" - CAT *FIRE IT UP* Woke up at 5am, put on my camouflage Wiped off my .243 and fired up my Dodge Headed out to my ol' deerstand back in the pines Gonna get me a ten point buck with 11 inch tines, yeah FREE RUGGIE

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 3:52 PM
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LOL... Wrong again bloodtrails. When entering the state of new jersey you must report your firearms to the FARTHEST police station and forfeit your sandwich to me. __________________ Dog's on point... get ready!!! It is very important to generate a good attitude, a good heart, as much as possible. From this, Happiness in both the short term and the long term for both yourself and others will come. - Dalai Lama http://www.njoutdooralliance.org/

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 3:54 PM
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bloodtrails...you can take the guns but could i have th sandwich?? please? __________________ Vice President Woodruff Rod and Gun Club "If i see BONE, Its goin HOME" - CAT *FIRE IT UP* Woke up at 5am, put on my camouflage Wiped off my .243 and fired up my Dodge Headed out to my ol' deerstand back in the pines Gonna get me a ten point buck with 11 inch tines, yeah FREE RUGGIE

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 7:29 PM
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Best nj birds. It is not that I want to have a bb pistol that looks like a handgun, cause I already own a nice 9MM(legally). I just have some annoying rodents around my house that need some attention.and It would be alot easier with a bb pistol than a air rifle. Lou, no sandwich for you!

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http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/about/fire_trans.html This states it all.... the federal transport law 18 U.S.C.A. 926A. This law only applies if all of the requirements are met by NJ standards listed in section II. So I will apply for my pistol permit to purchase a bb gun.

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 8:59 PM
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Quote: Lou, no sandwich for you! damn it __________________ Vice President Woodruff Rod and Gun Club "If i see BONE, Its goin HOME" - CAT *FIRE IT UP* Woke up at 5am, put on my camouflage Wiped off my .243 and fired up my Dodge Headed out to my ol' deerstand back in the pines Gonna get me a ten point buck with 11 inch tines, yeah FREE RUGGIE

Posted: 02 Feb 2007 7:53 AM
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I'm just going to say there is a LOT of misinfo in this thread. As well, there are a lot of people thinking they can beat the law in certain ways. It is true, if you want to break the law you can beat it, most of the time. But all that is needed is one little mess up on your part and proof of ownership and where it was purchased can be proven. Then you have more troubles than you would have had by doing things legally. You know, a lot of people here don't like NJ and their hunting laws, guns laws etc. I'm in that group too at times. But if you don't like them, don't want to jump through all the hoops, get out. Move. Nobody is keeping you here. Don't tell me it's your job. You can get another job. Or is the $$ at this job worth more than your "rights" as you see them? Tired of all the whiners, complainers and illegal gun people on here. Ya all want cheeze with all your whine? __________________ "A bad day of hunting is better than a good day of work"

Posted: 02 Feb 2007 9:45 AM
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So what are you saying TJC? Tell us what you feel is incorrect information. I'd like to know so I have a better understanding. I moved from NY 2 years ago and when I went to the local PD to ask what I should do with my rifles/pistols they said "It's up to you if you want to register them. I personally would not". Of course I didn't but I did apply for my FID as I was told it was needed to purchase additional rifles. I was also told I needed to apply for a pistol permit if I wanted to purchase an additional pistol.

Posted: 02 Feb 2007 10:22 AM
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Quote: I was also told I needed to apply for a pistol permit if I wanted to purchase an additional pistol. Do you mean to carry? I purchased my hand guns cause I had a FID (FPID) __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan Am a non-hunter who is PRO hunting supporting what YOU like to do! NRA member NJOA supporter UXBNJ Secretary http://uxbnj.com/ UCBK, ACF member

Posted: 02 Feb 2007 12:26 PM
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Quote: Tired of all the whiners, complainers and illegal gun people on here. Ya all want cheeze with all your whine? TJC... great point. I also believe that people need to take more action politically in order to protect these "rights" if they think they are entitled to them. Just talking about your rights does not guarantee that they are protected. People need to be active, involved and informed. I bet some of the whiners may have voted for an anti-gun politician without even knowing it. __________________ Dog's on point... get ready!!! It is very important to generate a good attitude, a good heart, as much as possible. From this, Happiness in both the short term and the long term for both yourself and others will come. - Dalai Lama http://www.njoutdooralliance.org/

Posted: 08 Mar 2007 9:45 PM
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From: www.njguns.com New Jersey Guns Did you know? (Some NJ Firearm laws trivia) Did you know that on 1/10/98 Gov. Whitman signed into law N.J.S. 2C:39-16 which is known as Assembly bill 221, "Leader of Firearm Trafficking Network "? This law makes it a crime to unlawfully sell, transport or dispose of a firearm punishable as a FIRST DEGREE OFFENSE (10-20 years) and up to a $500,000 fine! Quoting Evan Nappen is in his book, "Nappen on NJ Gun Laws", on page 17: "Never before in the history of U.S. gun laws has a pure victimless anti-gun law (not involving the unlawful use of a firearm against another) been so harsh and extreme in its penalty. One may commit a Second Degree Sexual Assault or Seconded Degree Armed Robbery without facing so severe a penalty. This new gun control law is the same degree of offense as a MURDER charge." Did you know that ALL firearms are banned in NJ? One can legally possess firearms by exemptions only. Under N.J.S. 2C:39-5, possession of ALL firearms is prohibited unless one has a NJ permit to carry a handgun or a NJ Firearm Purchaser ID card for long guns. Even if one possesses these licenses, under N.J.S. 2C:39-2b one is presumed not to be licensed until proven otherwise. It is up to the law abiding gun owner to prove later in court that he/she was in lawful possession under an exemption. So, in NJ, GUN OWNERS ARE GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT! Did you know that under N.J.S. 13:54-1.15 any background investigation conducted by the chief of police, the Superintendent or the county prosecutor, of any applicant for a permit, FID card, or registration is not of public record and shall not be disclosed to any person not authorized by law...INCLUDING THE APPLICANT?!?! That means if you are denied a permit, you can't see the documentation without hiring an attorney to get this information! Did you know in NJ its already illegal to transfer the ownership of ANY firearm at a gun show?!? That right! You can only DISPLAY firearms at gun shows in NJ. Thats why there aren't any around (with the exception of the antique show in Toms River). All transfers of firearms must be done at the FFL licensed place of business (See page 77 of Evan Nappen's Book, "Nappen on New Jersey Gun Law") Did you know that its a criminal offense, punishable by a fine and imprisonment, to leave a loaded firearm within easy access of a minor (anyone under the age of 16)? Did you know that BB guns are classified as firearms under NJ Gun Laws? Did you know that gun clubs and target ranges are exempt from noise liability under the Noise Control Act of 1971? Did you know that when placing an ad for firearms you are trying to sell, you MUST include a statement which specifies that the buyer is to have the necessary permits appropriate for the transaction? Failure to include this statement in your ad is a disorderly person offense under L.1983, c.515, s.1; amended 1990,c.32,s.5. Did you know that under N.J.S. 2C:39-15a, a person is committing a crime of the second degree if he/she trains or demonstrates the use of any firearm to anyone who intends to use the firearm illegally? This carries a penalty of 10 years in jail and up to a $100,000 fine! Did you know that imitation/toy firearms are prohibited in NJ under N.J.S. 2C:39-4e and is considered a crime of the 4th degree with a maximum jail time of 18 month and a maximum fine of $1800? Did you know that under N.J.S. 2C:39-5e(3) it is a disorderly persons offense to bring a toy firearm to any school (in buildings or even on the grounds) with a maximum jail time of 6 months and $1000 fine? Did you know that your best protection against becoming a victim of the NJ criminal justice system is outlined in Evan Nappen's book, "Nappen on NJ gun laws"? On page 14 of his book Nappen offers 3 simple rules (Called SAC): S - Remain Silent A - Ask for an Attorney C - Do NOT Consent to giving up or waiving your rights! __________________ Want to be FIT? http://BootCross.com

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You guys make it sound so hard to acquire a BB gun. If it is illegal, then why does Walmart, Dicks, Sports Authority, and tons of other department stores sell BB guns in NJ? Explain to me how it was possible for me to buy 3 airsoft guns, including a full size $200 M4A1 imitation rifle, from California no questions asked online with only a credit card? I believe interstate commerce is regulated by Federal Law, making it perfectly legal to ship BB guns across state lines as long as they posess the visible ORANGE-TIP. Private citizens are also allowed to shoot airsoft guns on their property so long as they pose no physical threat to somebody else's saftey or property. Airsoft guns are merely for target practice and leisure, restricting a citizen's right to property and firearms would be a direct violation of the constitution.

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Air soft guns use plastic "BB's." That's what makes them different (here in NJ).

Posted: 02 Feb 2007 1:48 PM
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Quote: Do you mean to carry? I purchased my hand guns cause I had a FID (FPID) No, I was told you need a permit to buy a handgun in NJ, not just a FID.

Posted: 02 Feb 2007 3:28 PM
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Quote: No, I was told you need a permit to buy a handgun in NJ, not just a FID. oh, maybe things changed. I bought them back in 1980 __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan Am a non-hunter who is PRO hunting supporting what YOU like to do! NRA member NJOA supporter UXBNJ Secretary http://uxbnj.com/ UCBK, ACF member

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Hi Kat

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Hi Pete __________________ The government’s view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan Am a non-hunter who is PRO hunting supporting what YOU like to do! NRA member NJOA supporter UXBNJ Secretary http://uxbnj.com/ UCBK, ACF member

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New Jersey Gun laws __________________ "Barbertown Rules"- Some Drunk, Croton Picnic 2005

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click the back link on that page to see the whole site sorry i linked you to one particular page guys and gals __________________ "Barbertown Rules"- Some Drunk, Croton Picnic 2005

Posted: 08 Mar 2007 9:16 PM
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in NJ an air powdered handgun or rifle is considered a firearm. you would need a purchase permit for the rifle and a handgun permit for the pistol. if someone legally purchases a firearm in another state, they can also lawfully possess the firearm when they move to NJ without obtaining the permit. they can however voluntarily register the firearm with their local PD. federal law allows for the transportation of firearms acros state lines when the possessor of the firearms can legally possess such firearms in the state where he started and the also in the state of destination. an example would be a man living in delaware on his way to maine for a hunting trip cannot be convicted of possessing that firearm should he be stopped in NJ for a traffic violation.

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and nj wants to ban airsoft too __________________ Welcome to New Jersey Whiner!

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Quote: You guys make it sound so hard to acquire a BB gun. If it is illegal, then why does Walmart, Dicks, Sports Authority, and tons of other department stores sell BB guns in NJ Airsoft guns are not considered BB guns. BB Guns are regulated like firearms in NJ. Weird. __________________ "To be unarmed and therefore helpless in the face of evil is irresponsible and in fact complicit to said evil. If you knowingly and intentionally go forward incapable of stopping evil, you assist in its progress. Only a person free to choose to protect himself is truly respecting God's gift of life." Ted Nugent