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NJ Hunter / New Jersey Deer, Bear & Turkey Hunting / Deer Action / Deer Zone 16 / Still holding out !!!
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 1:09 PM
I'll never get a picture of my target buck if she does not pop him out !

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Posted:  15 Aug 2006 1:12 PM
Haha, what a porker...her fawns are gonna have spots in January!
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 1:17 PM
Jeez  how could she still be holding out!!!  She got knocked up in March?!?!?!??!  Weird
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 1:21 PM
Just proves you can have buck chasing a doe anytime in Jersey.
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 1:22 PM
Wow that is insane some fawns are starting to lose their spots.. And those havent been born. They will never survive  the winter..
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Posted:  15 Aug 2006 1:31 PM
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They will never survive  the winter

depending on the severity of the winter weather this year....there is a good chance the fawn/fawns won't make it.
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 1:32 PM
Must have been bred in February
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 1:41 PM
That's just crazy.  Either that or she's in need of a diet

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Posted:  15 Aug 2006 1:48 PM
Yeah, could be a sign to lay off the bon-bons, and soap operahs..
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 1:57 PM
She could also have a tumor..!!
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Posted:  15 Aug 2006 2:04 PM
Ok Who's bait pile is missing
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 2:04 PM
That would be a HUGE tumor.  Shes pregnant.  IF she has the little ones any day, and we have a mild fall/winter.(which we probably will)  Theyll make it
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Posted:  15 Aug 2006 2:05 PM
Something is not right about that!
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 2:24 PM
Hey Schues, how do you know when she was banged up?  Your wife know about this? 
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 2:24 PM
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Hey Schues, how do you know when she was banged up?  Your wife know about this?

I get around. 
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 3:48 PM
Deer are breeding all yaer now in Nj. Talk to the bioligst for the state & they will tell of does with fawns that are pregnet again.  We had 20 pounders with spots in dec. last year. Killing more does will cause them to breed more, ececpt the ones we kill.
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 3:50 PM
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Killing more does will cause them to breed more

I thought this was anti-hunting propaganda? Is there any truth to that statement?
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Posted:  15 Aug 2006 3:58 PM
Hey know don't you dare say anything that comes out of my mouth is anti hunting Roderic. Yes. Carrying capacity  of their habitat will fluctuate birth patterns.
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 3:59 PM
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Killing more does will cause them to breed more

That doesn't make any sense at all.  Killing does will reduce the population of deer in an area.  That's the point of management hunts.
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 4:02 PM
Will they stop giving birth if carring capicty is reached? no. If times are good(Food /water/cover ) you will see multiply birthie twin or triplits , increase. If you stop hunting they will still give birth.
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 4:20 PM
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If you stop hunting they will still give birth.

yeah but hunting doesn't make them breed more.  That is anti propaganda.  They are going to breed no matter what you do.  Hunting is the only way to manage a herd.
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 4:21 PM
Schues in the woods helping with the breeding doesn't help either...
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 4:32 PM
lousy sasquatches inpregnating our does


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Posted:  15 Aug 2006 4:45 PM
i dont think they'll make it through the year
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Posted:  15 Aug 2006 5:13 PM   Last Edited By: rdfhunter
Not tring to get in a pissing match but....Look I have a degree in wildlife management. I went to Paul smith College for 2 years & finished up at Rowan.Does that mean I know my [no swearing please] from a hole in the wall? Kinda. When the necessities (food,water,cover) are abundant there WILL be more occurrences of twins & trips. When the three are not there a doe will have more single fawns. This is not "anti" BS. BTW cuz there is other ways to manage the herd. Hunting happens to be the most effective & cost friendly.
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 6:43 PM   Last Edited By: Schues41
Nothing you have said relates to does breeding more because hunters are shooting them.  So what are you getting at. and I'm not trying to get in a pissing match either.
Abundance of Food,water,cover = twins and triplets - ok that sounds fine.
Absence or decrease in food,water,cover = does have more single fawns than twins or triplets ok that sounds fine.
Hunters kill does = does breed more, and there are more deer - does not sound fine.  I'm having a hard time believing this one, and I'm having a hard time figuring out how any study was able to prove this.  Who told you it wasn't anti propaganda??
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 6:45 PM
Mostly twins in Randolph, subraction starts 9/9
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 7:35 PM   Last Edited By: rdfhunter
Hunters shoot deer. Less deer = habitat below carrying capacity = abundance of essentials = more multiply births. Why they are breeding all year I have no idea. " Who told you it wasn't anti propaganda" it called biology & it comes in books or several thousands of dollars worth of tuition.
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 7:36 PM
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Mostly twins in Randolph, subraction starts 9/9
Love that kind of math.
Posted:  15 Aug 2006 7:50 PM
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Hunters shoot deer. Less deer = habitat below carrying capacity = abundance of essentials = more multiply births.

That's the cycle...that predation/hunting balances.  Hunting does not make does breed more, it keeps the system in balance.  We are the natural predator in this state.

IMO your statement was worded very poorly for this site.  "killing does will cause them to breed more."