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| Posted: 24 May 2006 7:27 PM | ||
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 7:28 PM | ||
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Stu, is that a feather sticking out of your mouth? __________________ Quote: Hunting is My Heart & Soul, Without it. I'm just a empty shell. |
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 7:30 PM | ||
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| check out the news banner under the second photo... tu would hang himself if he knew about it. | ||
| Posted: 24 May 2006 7:30 PM | ||
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Sugar and Kris, you both need to grow some balls and sue both Stu and his group and Channel 12 News. They both took the video without permission from NJH, and they used your screen name and your quote without permission. You both need to to do the right thing, not just for hunting and NJH, but for self pride.
Sugar I'm so sorry to hear that your son thinks your going to jail and he is crying, just shows that this anti group and News channel has no feelings for no one |
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 7:34 PM | ||
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BTW, who is the real Sugar.... My wife calls me Sugar... the inmates calls BHC Sugar ( when He's not around ) How can they know for sure who is Sugar... Is Your middle name Sugar?, Sugar.... I think I'll be Sugar for the next 2 weeks... __________________ Quote: Hunting is My Heart & Soul, Without it. I'm just a empty shell. |
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 7:34 PM | ||
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 7:37 PM | ||
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Sugar and Kris, you both need to grow some balls and sue both Stu and his group and Channel 12 News. They both took the video without permission from NJH, and they used your screen name and your quote without permission. You both need to to do the right thing, not just for hunting and NJH, but for self pride. BHC you are right. There is a copyright notice on the bottom of the screen that he obviously ingored. __________________ It isn't the catch or the kill that makes for a great outdoor experience but enjoying all that God has created for us.
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 7:43 PM | ||
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these people are so stupid..sugar maybe stu has a little somthin somthin...for yah i think he wants to see your trohey carp __________________ HEY STU..
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 7:48 PM | ||
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| Kris, this isn't the first time pictures, quotes, screen names, video, etc. has been stolen from NJH. If I remember correctly, a past member informed you to this fact when the "SAVENJBEARS" stole pictures NJ8pointer's bear and posted it on there site. If you did the right thing and that would of been to sue them, maybe something like this wouldn't of happen today. This is round two of this stuff being taken and used without permission. Kris, grow them balls big, and do what needs to be done | ||
| Posted: 24 May 2006 7:48 PM | ||
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You guys need to Sue these people there is a copy right Law! Come on what happened to all our Lawyers on here! __________________ Want to be FIT?
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 7:53 PM | ||
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I've been tell Sugar that... CounterSuit...PAin & suffering for His Son....Poor Kid __________________ Quote: Hunting is My Heart & Soul, Without it. I'm just a empty shell. |
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 8:13 PM | ||
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PAin & suffering for His Son....Poor Kid Cant sue for pain and suffering for something like that, they did not intentionally make him cry. It would be impossible for be able to prove that they took those images from this site, and as for Sugar's quote, it is not toally clear that everything on this website is copyrighted---and technically they did not misquote him...Im no lawyer, but I am in law school so I know a little bit, but a lawyer would know more than me. It Sux but you really cant do much about this, except for defending any suit they bring by showing that it is a frivilous claim with no merit and hope it gets dismissed, and they have to pay for all attorney fees. __________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - Benjamin Franklin
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 8:31 PM | ||
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this is BS __________________ A true outdoorsman gives more to nature than he takes out!
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 8:31 PM | ||
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NJHunter.com should sue since it's NOT posted on their site!!!!
Stu is a media whore....He doesn't give two shits about those pheasants...He just wants to be the hero to all his blind followers and get his fat face on TV! __________________ ............................................
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 8:33 PM | ||
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By the way guys....NICE SHOOTING!!!!  __________________ ............................................
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 8:35 PM | ||
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NJHunter.com should sue since it's NOT posted on their site!!!! They could perhaps sue because it wasnt on their site and could be considered libel/slander, but even that is a long shot. Not worth the trouble. __________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - Benjamin Franklin
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 8:48 PM | ||
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Defamation:
The term defamation refers to a false statement made about someone or some organization that is damaging to their reputation. For a statement to be defamatory, the statement must be published to a third party, and the person publishing the statement must have known or should have known that the statement was false. The law of defamation is complex, as it has been determined by numerous court decisions rather than one national statute. In addition, a claim of defamation is subject to a variety of defenses, such as the First Amendment and (of course) the defense that the statement was true. Because of the complexity of defamation law, a full explanation of this area will not be set forth here, and is saved for others to provide. While the Internet provides a new context in which a defaming statement can be made and published, there is little new law relating to Internet defamation other than liability for service providers. Nonetheless, web page developers must be careful to avoid defaming someone in their pages. If a statement is being made that may damage the reputation of a person or organization, care should be taken to make sure that the statement is not defaming. __________________ Member UBNJ
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 8:50 PM | ||
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Linking and framing concerns:
Links between pages are the raison d'etre for the world wide web. Without widespread linking, the web as we know it would not exist. Nevertheless, there are questions about the legality of such connections. For those interested in more information on any of the subjects below, Bitlaw also contains an extended discussion of linking liability. Derivative Work Created by Linking-In Images Found on Other Sites. When the image from another web site is incorporated into one's own page by means of an unauthorized IMG link, there is no direct copying by the creator of the link. Nonetheless, when the visiting browser retrieves the image from the other web site and combines it with the text on the current page, the creator of the web site may be guilty of contributory copyright infringement for creating a derivative work. Consequently, one should not include links to images found on another party's web site without first getting permission. Passing Off. One can also utilize a link to p [no swearing please] off another's work as one's own. For instance, one could tell the reader to click here to see some of Brad Bolin's best original comics. The link leads to a Doonesbury image which is falsely claimed to be original to Brad Bolin. Consequently, the HREF link also is a reverse passing off. Reverse passing off by using a link to pass-off another's work as one's own most likely violates state law governing competitive business practices. Defamation. In addition to the type of direct defamation explained above, it should be noted that a link to another's page or image could be defamatory, and hence subject someone to legal liability. An example defamatory link would be: "Some http://www.no.man/~bad_man.htm">idiot killed my cat, stole my invention, and threatened to destroy the Internet." The statement itself does not identify the party. The link itself (assuming it actually linked to someone) provides the context that turns the statement into defamation. Trademark Infringement. As explained above, trademark infringement occurs when one party utilizes the mark of another in such a way as to create a likelihood of confusion, mistake and/or deception with the consuming public. The confusion created can be that the defendant's products or services are the same as that of the plaintiff, or that the defendant is somehow associated, affiliated, connected, approved, authorized or sponsored by trademark owner. As a result, any link that falsely leads the end user to conclude that the web page author is affiliated, approved, or sponsored by the trademark owner could lead to a claim of trademark infringement. Problems with Frames. Frames are used to subdivide web pages into multiple parts. In most cases, frames are used only to show multiple pages of content from the same site at the same time. For example, frames could be used to divide a browser into two parts, with one part containing an index for the web site and the second containing content pages. While this type of use is perfectly legal, problems can arise if a frame is used to show pages from two web sites at the same time. The use of frames in this way can mislead the viewer of a site as to the creator of its content, possibly raising issues of copyright infringement, passing off, defamation, and trademark infringement, just like the linking situations described above. The party that developed the Totalnews web site found this out by using frames to show other news organizations sites at the same time as showing their index and advertisements. The other web sites were not amused, and filed suit. __________________ Member UBNJ
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 9:06 PM | ||
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What a total bunch of B.S.
Anyone who ever stocked any Pheasent knows you tuck the head and spin during the release of the birds. For god sake do some research you bunch of liberal media idiots.. News???? This is more like Kindergarten games...News 12 is a joke. If you didn't post this I would never have know since I don't watch Half Assed Programs like News 12 LOL __________________ "Well, if it isn't Mister Chain Blue Lightning himself"
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 9:11 PM | ||
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By the way Stu is one Ugly individual
Stay off the TV Stu You have a face for RADIO! __________________ "Well, if it isn't Mister Chain Blue Lightning himself"
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 9:15 PM | ||
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Stay off the TV Stu You have a face for RADIO! It is too ugly for radio also. He looks like a pinata. __________________ It isn't the catch or the kill that makes for a great outdoor experience but enjoying all that God has created for us.
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 9:43 PM | ||
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OK so where do they get that the birds were drugged?
Taking words outa context or something? Also where were the birds taken..game farm, sugars place? Like someone said if they were in season or if there were on a farm they can't do sh*t. They are just trying to start trouble. __________________ |
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 9:49 PM Last Edited By: NJBowman | ||
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Pheasant season was in. The birds were purchased from a game farm and release on a large private farm. The hunters did nothing different than what the state does on wmas across NJ during the whole small game season. The only difference is that they used bows instead of shotguns.
Stu had to do something. The animal rights groups have been loosing battles left and right, because more people see that hunters are the true conservationists. Desperate poeple do desperate things. __________________ PSE X Force Baby!
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 9:57 PM Last Edited By: dbowers | ||
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Thanks John, thats what I had thought after diggin through the archives.
They have nothing.. I will be sending the news a email in support of the hunters that participated. Copy of email sent: Dear News 12, As journalist I would think that you would get both sides of a story before portraying something in such a negative manner. That facts behind the "Pheasant Hunt" are simple: 1. It was pheasant season and the birds were taken legally. With legal equipment. 2. The birds were not drugged. Pheasant will hold tight in cover to avoid detection. The hunters were flushing the birds just as a dog would. To side with the one sided views of animals rights activist is just ridiculous. It is a known fast that these groups take words out a context, re-arrange them to serve their agenda. It is my opinion that News 12 owes the hunters and the website (New Jersey Hunter.com)an apology Dave Bowers Full Draw Archery.com/Owner __________________ |
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| Posted: 24 May 2006 10:41 PM | ||
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STU is one ugly dude...someone fell of out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down __________________ Vice President
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| Posted: 25 May 2006 5:11 AM | ||
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| Posted: 25 May 2006 6:02 AM | ||
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101.5 radio ate up the antis' con.
their story says "apparently drugged pheasants." maybe their source figures he can lie if he prefaces lies with "apparently." the station started running the lie early a.m., will probably run the same clip all day while listeners nibble buffalo wings from chickens that apparently died of old age...and get upset over other birds that were raised to be killed. expect some politician who doesn't mind apparently lying to immediately draft a bill to ban something. |
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| Posted: 25 May 2006 6:19 AM | ||
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unbelieveable! the whole story is BS. i don't even know what to say. it's just a mess.  __________________ Soccer-Mom Pro-Staffer
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| Posted: 25 May 2006 6:27 AM | ||
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now 101.5 guy's saying hunters were bad shots, missed birds close to ground. he "couldn't believe" hunters didn't shoot themselves.
i didn't see any misses in the clip. dummy has no idea how hard it is to shoot a flying target. flu-flu sure ain't in his vocabulary. also don't recall a bird missed or shot close to ground. or a bowhunter shooting another hunter in nj. bias does strange things to perception. but hyping an audience is an art, requires a lot of "apparents." |
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| Posted: 25 May 2006 6:37 AM | ||
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well this goes to show how hunters need to stand together. even though we have different views on many types of hunting; crossbows, baiting, etc. this is when all hunters need to stand together. these anti aholes have no idea what they are talking about. it really gets me fuming as you read and hear more of this. this is so ridiculous. __________________ Soccer-Mom Pro-Staffer
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