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Posted:  24 May 2006 12:46 PM
Group protests Sussex pheasant hunt
BY TOM BALDWIN
GANNETT STATE BUREAU

TRENTON -- An animal-rights activist today played videos of laughing, high-fiving men kicking and poking allegedly drugged Ringneck pheasants so they would take flight to be targeted by fusillades of arrows and killed.

"We are hoping the state will prosecute," said Stuart Chaifetz of Cherry Hill, director of what he says is a 3,000-member Animal Protection PAC, short for political action committee.

Chaifetz, a longtime opponent of hunting, said he was turning the video over to the New Jersey Society for the Protection of Cruelty to Animals, or SPCA.

"There was no chase. They basically just sat there until they were forced to move," said Chaifetz, who added that "the cruelty is in the kicking."

He said state law is not precise but generally holds it to be illegal to conduct target practice on live animals.

The videos, which Chaifetz said he copied from Internet sites focused on outdoors activities, showed men in wintry hunting clothes kicking and poking the reluctant birds, hiding as they were on a grassy field.

The pheasants then took to the air, whereupon the men loosed arrows at the fugitives, killing each, except for one that got away.

The men cheered one another and slapped palms as a bird dog pounded on the fallen fowl.

Chaifetz said the shooting took place Feb. 18 of this year on private land in Sussex County, under auspices of a group called United Bowhunters of New Jersey.

Chaifetz said the group told on its Web site how the shooters had drugged the birds so they would not flush until the hunters were right upon them.

The SPCA, the state and hunting groups did not immediately comment.
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Posted:  24 May 2006 12:49 PM
He stole this Video from our Website???
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Posted:  24 May 2006 12:50 PM
i HOPE STUIE WILL BE PROSECUTED FOR THEFT OF BAND-WIDTH
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Posted:  24 May 2006 12:51 PM
I really think he took that video from our site. Kris posted this Video a while back.
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Posted:  24 May 2006 12:58 PM
Here is the link to the post

http://www.newjerseyhunter.com/article8694.html

Some of you were right that the kicking did not look to good give the hunter a bad name and guess what the Anti's were reading and watching and ready. Now they are feeding and doing what they do best.
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Posted:  24 May 2006 1:00 PM
Come on now, has anyone of you ever drugged a pheasant. you've got to be kidding me! This guy is really getting on my nerves, I hope I never run into him.
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Posted:  24 May 2006 1:05 PM
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Some of you were right that the kicking did not look to good give the hunter a bad name and guess what the Anti's were reading and watching and ready. Now they are feeding and doing what they do best.


I don't care what they think - the basis of their core argument is illogical and irrational.

The truth about pheasant hunting in winter is sometimes you have to flush hard or beat to get them to fly.

Had the bird been shot while it was sitting or picked up and thrown, I'd be displeased with the hunters.

Contrary to stuie being preturbed and his assertion that the birds were drugged (he should have his head examined) - the cold weather will keep birds down.

It was incredible how they made a succesful shot with bow and arrow. I applaud them again as you should.

Post more videos and pictures please.

And Stuie - the site is Newjerseyhunter.com - I guess you got tired of giving the site free publicity.


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Posted:  24 May 2006 1:13 PM
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I don't care what they think - the basis of their core argument is illogical and irrational.

The truth about pheasant hunting in winter is sometimes you have to flush hard or beat to get them to fly.

Had the bird been shot while it was sitting or picked up and thrown, I'd be displeased with the hunters.

Contrary to stuie being preturbed and his assertion that the birds were drugged (he should have his head examined) - the cold weather will keep birds down.

It was incredible how they made a succesful shot with bow and arrow. I applaud them again as you should.


I know this and you know this and it does not bother me and I really don't care what they think. What I am saying some people were right that one of them Anti's would be watching and making a big deal about it.
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Posted:  24 May 2006 1:17 PM
This just goes to show we need a more informative application to get membership to this site, even references before the administrator allows people on here, the antis are taking our own info and turning it around on us
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Posted:  24 May 2006 1:22 PM
is there anyway to see if somebody downlowded the video from here?
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Posted:  24 May 2006 1:22 PM
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This just goes to show we need a more informative application to get membership to this site, even references before the administrator allows people on here, the antis are taking our own info and turning it around on us


Doesn't make one bit of difference.

They'll steal band-width all day long. They constantly argue that hunting in its most ethical form is wrong.

I will challenge all anti-s to defend their position.

I will defend all legal hunting.

The bird was hunted ethically and the challenge of using archery tackle proves further that the bow and arrow is completely effective in taking game.

Cheers to hunters!
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Posted:  24 May 2006 1:23 PM
Dosen't bowhunting the birds givr the birds more of a chance?
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Posted:  24 May 2006 1:26 PM
These people need to find something better to do with themselves other than molesting us.  What a bunch of F-ing retards.  Give me a break...I hope you are reading this.  You people are complete morons...you need lives...leave us alone...hunters are not the kind of people you should mess around with.  We have weapons....lots of them.
Posted:  24 May 2006 1:27 PM
LOL
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It takes real skill to arrow a bird in flight. But it takes a complete moron to step and or kick a bird to fly. There is no sport in that, and ones that did this, your not hunters, you all should be ashamed of yourselfs for doing this. At least don't brag about it and post pictures on here knowing that "THEY" are watching, what you did was add more wood to there fire, "THEY" will use this towards us and hunting and try in ernest to stop us 


Some words from BowhunterCop, I guess he was right same with Buckfever.
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Posted:  24 May 2006 1:30 PM
Excellent shooting guys! 
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Posted:  24 May 2006 1:32 PM
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It takes real skill to arrow a bird in flight. But it takes a complete moron to step and or kick a bird to fly. There is no sport in that, and ones that did this, your not hunters, you all should be ashamed of yourselfs for doing this. At least don't brag about it and post pictures on here knowing that "THEY" are watching, what you did was add more wood to there fire, "THEY" will use this towards us and hunting and try in ernest to stop us 

Even after reading this...I still feel that the below statement is applicable.
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These people need to find something better to do with themselves other than molesting us.  What a bunch of F-ing retards.  Give me a break...I hope you are reading this.  You people are complete morons...you need lives...leave us alone...hunters are not the kind of people you should mess around with.  We have weapons....lots of them.
Posted:  24 May 2006 1:36 PM
if youre pheasant hunting sometimes the birds hold up and wont fly untill u give them a little push..what would be more humane to just shoot them on the ground.....F=ck Stuie and the other asswipes...i've been bird hunting half of my life and never seen anyone drugging a pheasant
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Posted:  24 May 2006 1:36 PM
One thing that really irks me is that a crazy person like Stu can "alleged" something... and the newspaper prints it.

And once its proven false.... zero repercussions for Stu.
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Posted:  24 May 2006 1:36 PM
I agree they should go find something better to do with there time. No matter what we do with ours and what it involves it does not involve them. The shooting in the videos was impressive and I am sure none of the birds smoked a joint and sipped JD before taking flight .

If anyone was drugged it was Stu and his brainless cronies
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Posted:  24 May 2006 1:37 PM
Bowhuntercop's assertion that it takes no skill to flush a bird in winter (kicking the grass) is moot.
Yes - I've kicked the sorgum to get birds to flush, as have most uplanders. It happens in winter. Did they shoot it on the ground? No - they got it to fly and further executed great archery shots. Cheers to all of us!

I had to dig this up from an old thread as a reminder as to whom "THEY" are.

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The premise of Anti-hunting and animal rights are based on elitism. NBK has demonstrated this in his replies. Unlike most of us who'll will share with others and assist those in pursuit and rejoice in nature's bounty with others - the 'elites' feel that certain classes of human are above others. His response that he was 'educated' therefore he is above me or anyone that pursues game spells out the core principle of the movement.

Its really racism and/or bigotry.

Ex: I am no better than Ishi was as a human - yet he and his kind were far more human than 'civilized society'. 'Elites' look at folks like Ishi as a 'lesser breed'. Subsequentially those that work the land, and manage the game herds are presumed by the movement as 'beneath them'.

I'm Sure Saxton Pope - a highly educated man in his day - would not want to associate himself among the 21st century elitists.

Res Ipsa Loquitor.

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Posted:  24 May 2006 1:41 PM
Is there something within this statement that we can fire back at them with? He really needs to feel somekind of reprecution.

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Posted:  24 May 2006 1:44 PM
Nah - it'll attract more people to the site and to hunting in general.

Soon enough, archers and birders and their friends and families will get fed-up with stuie and we'll see NJH member numbers close to 5000 by 2007.

Thanks stuie - that which seeks to destroy us only unifies us and makes us stronger.
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Posted:  24 May 2006 1:54 PM   Last Edited By: Dragthor
I'm so pissed and hate that little fat faggot.
That for the purpose of spearing you guy a slew of Irate rambling and profanity I will with hold comment at this time other than to say we really need to turn up the heat on Stu yes he is a little is insignificant pain in the [no swearing please] but if left unchallenged he is slowly chipping away at us in the public forum. We need to stand up and fight back already.
I really can’t take anymore of his nonsense and fact/faceless lies that he dribbles out to the public, and why do the same papers that always print his lies reject my letters of rebuttal or offers of proof that what was said is faule every time.

Stu you better hope I never run into you, or you will sourly rule the day I beat you down with the truth and facts about hunting.


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Posted:  24 May 2006 2:08 PM
Here is Tom Baldwin's email:

TBALDWI@GANNETT.COM
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Posted:  24 May 2006 2:14 PM
this is why I wrote the letter for others to sign about NJ needs a bear hunt... Now we need to all write letters to the news papers telling what hunting is all about, not going out to kill something, but to be one with nature... It is something that is deep inside us all, YES even you Stuie & Lynda... You are Humans, and as humans you have deeply seeded roots in hunting/fishing/trapping.

Stu for someone as FAT as you are, I can't see you getting that way from just eating a living thing like Plants... You Murderer of a living thing, how can you live with yourself or call hunters names... You ever think of the pain your putting the plants in put having someone pull them from the ground or cut them..... I know you are killer, so why do you attack us for..... Plus doesn't your group help ALF. The FBI is watching you stu...
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Posted:  24 May 2006 2:42 PM
What we really need is a big Venison Dinner in Cherry Hill, invite the publicI'd donate a few deer to the cause.
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What we really need is a big Venison Dinner in Cherry Hill, invite the publicI'd donate a few deer to the cause.




I'll bring the refreshments!
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Posted:  24 May 2006 2:47 PM
This is the email I just sent to Tom Baldwin.

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What proof do you have that the birds where drugged? How can you write lies like that.... Would you be willing to write the truth, or well you just write what the Animal rights people what you to write? If you are a true reporter then please report the truth about hunting. I invite you to come and talk to New Jersey hunters and you will see we are more about helping the wildlife in this great State...


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